Opinion Split on 9/11 Report

9/11 Alternative ViewFrom the Times Herald:

More than 40 percent of Americans believe that the 9/11 Commission Report that investigated the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks is a cover-up, according to a recent poll. And nearly half surveyed said the attacks should be reinvestigated.

In May, a Zogby International poll of adults found that 42 percent of adults polled believe the U.S. government and the 9/11 Commission “concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence” that contradicts the official explanation of the attacks.

However, 48 percent polled believe there is no reason the 9/11 Commission would want to cover up information surrounding the terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 at the World Trade Center towers, Pentagon and in Somerset County, Pa.

The Zogby poll was sponsored by a leading activist group, 911 Truth.org, which is highly skeptical of the official report published in July 2004. About one in ten respondents were “not sure” about the report’s veracity.

I’ll say it again: there needs to be an independent investigation panel with subpoena powers. I know a bunch of you are going to link to some websites extolling some conspiracy theory or another based on pseudo-science about controlled demolitions, melted steel or whatever, so have at it. But the fact remains that until there is some objective analysis of all the facts available (even those tucked away in government drawers), all the theories (the official story included) don’t hold much water in the public’s opinion.

Stephen VanDyke

I've published HoT along with about 300+ friends since 2002. We're all Americans who are snarky and love our country. I'm a libertarian that registered Republican because I like to win elections. That's pretty much it.

29 Comments
  1. I don’t really know what to believe. The only thing I’m certain of is that the WTC buildings 1, 2 and 7 were knocked down and that planes were involved. I’d definitely like to see a real investigation.

  2. I’ve been reading a document I found in a government drawer, which predates the forming of the 9/11 Commission, which was stamped TOP SECRET on the top and bottom of every page, and still has lots of things redacted from it.

    Unfortunately, it’s some 850 pages long, and I haven’t quite reached page 200 (most of it ISN’T redacted).

    As soon as I’m done reading it, I plan to post it online.

  3. Were they really planes or superimposed in real time news feeds? I can’t wait for the nut cases to start with their asinine theories and ideas about the whole 9/11 deal. It gets better every time HoT visits this topic.

  4. Speaking of conspiracy theories:

    Loose Change:
    http://www.loosechange911.com/
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801
    – Very straight forward, no attempt at manipulation. Must See!

    Martial Law: 9/11 Rise of the Police State (Alex Jones)
    http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/december2004/021204martiallaw.htm
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661
    – Over the top. Won’t change any minds, but has some very disturbing images about the current state of “homeland security” in America. The David Broder interview seems to give some subtle credence to even his most outrageous claims. Interesting archive footage from the American Nazi Party from the 1930s.

    Now if you will excuse me, I’m off to adjust my tin-foil hat.

  5. So the question is… will those supporting the official story help those NOT supporting the official story get this independent investigation?

    Otherwise, the government can always investigate itself and *gasp* find itself interest. This goes for any and all abuses…

    I can sum the issue down into 2 sentances.

    We have questions.
    They won’t answer.

    I think even the most staunch government supporter can agree that they are not immune to our questions and our request. If they are not, then this government is no longer for the people… but for the people in charge.

  6. Michael H,

    For someone so paranoid, listing that you have a secret document on HoT is kinda weird… unless you were just trying to piss off people like myself with sarcasm :)

  7. Rick, I’ve been sitting on this thing for months, but I really didn’t have any idea what was in it until I opened it up. I even forgot where exactly it came from, though my attempts to locate it again by document identifiers turned up exactly nothing. As if it had been pulled off the Internet. I’m still looking.

    That said, I haven’t found any smoking guns in it either, but I’m not publishing it until I have a chance to read it myself. :)

    As for an independent investigation, I wouldn’t mind that at all, but uh…just exactly WHO would be doing the investigation? And how would we be able to trust THEIR findings?

  8. Michael H,

    I have always held the belief that a judge who is also an alledge suspect could not also preside over a trial.

    I see your point, I mean I would give the investigation over to North Korea. However, if we allegedly have a judicial system or many fine universities, I feel that some independent body can be formed.

    If not, then we must admit that there is no way we can prove ANY theory. I find that to be kindof… retarded

  9. From my experience with the US intelligence system, I fully believe that a total lack of competence and competition between agencies is the correct explanation.

    If Bush was really trying to make a power grab, he could have done it a lot better.

  10. Scott,

    Oh? How so? What gave him higher approval ratings and less scrutiny than 9/11?

    I’m all ears

  11. It was the commies! Shhhh! They’re here now…listening…. don’t look now, but they are right behind you!

    Loose lips sink ships

  12. 9/11, Iraq & PNAC – The Connection is Clear & Undeniable

    THE COMMON SENSE CONNECTION: THESE MEN LIED IN ORDER TO START A WAR AND IN THE PROCESS THEY SACRIFICED THE LIVES OF OVER 2000 AMERICAN SOLDIERS. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT THEY DID NOT SACRIFICE 3000 TOTAL STRANGERS ON 9/11/2001 FOR THE SAME PURPOSE?….
    http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=181

  13. TVNL Editor’s Comments: Today(11-22-05) is the anniversary of the murder of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. President Kennedy’s murder stands as an example of how a coup can take place in America, how a conspiracy to conduct a coup can work and how successful the cover up can be.

    For those of you who do not think that the Bush/PNAC administration could have conducted a coup by rigging elections and you do not think an atrocity like 9/11 could contain the fingerprints of insiders, read your history books. Today is the anniversary of the prime example of the fact that conspiracies and cover-ups take place in America, even if it means killing Americans. Never forget that! Think about it! – Jesse, Editor, TvNewsLIES.org
    ===========

    The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie (completely discredits & dismantles OUR Govt 9-11 story…pw)
    by Dr. David Ray Griffin
    Sunday, May 22, 2005
    http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050523112738404

  14. A Personal Decision
    By Kevin Ryan
    June 9th 2005
    http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050611100454443
    ========

    TvNewsLIES Challenges Believers of the Official Version of 9/11:
    Where the Hell Is YOUR Proof?
    “In the late 1990’s members of the Project for a New American Century wrote a treatise in which they foresaw a strategic “transformation” of the U.S. military into an imperialistic force of global domination that would require a huge increase in defense spending. “The process of transformation,” the plan said, “is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event””like a new Pearl Harbor.” The members of this group, known as PNAC, were appointed to many high level positions in the new Bush administration. Only months after they came to power, the United States experienced a new Pearl Harbor. That has never been publicized or explained as anything other than mere coincidence..”
    http://tvnewslies.org/html/where_the_hell_is_your_9_11_pr.html

  15. have you seen Ken Jenkins OLD video?

    I find it is quite useful to give
    hard-skulls the historical perspective. This video does it well.

    Perspectives on 911

    Perspectives on 911 DVD VHS Ken Jenkins production. Features highlights from about 10 other documentaries, including excerpts from Oliver Stone’s JFK, Sacrifice at Pearl Harbor, Out of the Blue, The Men Who Killed Kennedy, Aftermath, The Great Deception, Painful Deceptions, and the highlights from the First International Citizens Inquiry on 9-11, held in March of 2004.

  16. PW —

    You might as well urinate on someone’s face to get their attention. DON’T TYPE IN ALL CAPS. It labels you an idiot on the Internet.

    Thanks.

  17. Rick Rajter,

    I didn’t say 9/11 didn’t benifit Bush. I’m saying that if we was really trying to make a power grab, he could have done a lot better. There was an opprotunity within the first couple weeks after to do whatever he wanted with impunity. I fully expected Bush to try to pull some of the stuff that happened after Pearl Harbor and he didn’t. Its definately been used as an excuse to increase federal authority, but it would have been easy to go a lot further in those couple weeks after the attack.

  18. Scott,

    Or, you could counter argue that this would have been blatantly obvious, and he decided to expand federal authority continually and while always claiming “9/11 made me do it!”

  19. Even if I forget about all physical theories, I still have one question:
    if somebody attack 7/11 store, we can see video on news
    channel, but if somebody attack pent, we can see
    only couple blurry frames???
    I really wish somebody explain it to me!

  20. Stephen

    Please continue to visit this topic and also whether the holocaust actually occurred. I need my laughs at least once a week and this is the way to get them.

  21. I am just a visitor but I guess all are sometime. I am a firm believer in the Republic but not the Empire. There are lots of conspiracy ideas about what Empire’s do… to keep their Empire and expand upon it. One of our Empire’s conspiracy theories had to do with 19 Arabs plus box cutters. It is not a very good one. All anybody has to do is looks at the evidence regarding various issues: PNAC, Peak Oil, Anthrax and the Patriot Act, Bldg. 7, Lies to War, Increasing fascism in the US, growing theocracy, media ownership. Go look.
    I was told this is a ‘Libertarian’ site. Our liberty, our freedom is about to be eliminated completely. Connect the dots.
    dr r.welser clin psy

  22. I must admit at first i was very skeptical about this whole conspiracy deal, however once i saw loose change 2 my opinion changed. sure some of the quotes are taken out of context and some of the points are abit outrageous, but the fact of the matter is the photographic and video evidence doesnt lie. a little research and common sense should tell you that the offical story is bogus and should be independently investigated from every official and skeptical point of view. go to http://www.letsroll911.org/ check out the pod captured on photo and video. it made me sick to my stomach