Fox News Proposes Office of Censorship

NY Times / Fox News / censorshipNo joke, but at least they aren’t resorting to Orwellian language. Two juicy quotes from Media Matters (with video) (via The Agitator):

KILMEADE: Not crushing — preserving our freedom by preserving our secrets because war is not a free thing. […]

HILL: What about — in the past, we have had, at times, an Office of Censorship, where people review what is about — is something that was — it’s going to be big, you’ve got to run it through and say, “OK. Does this hurt our country or is it of, you know, news value?

If it’s anything like the rest of these highly politicized bureaucracies, we’re looking at some drooling lapdogs wanting to move this in the direction of emulating Chinese dissent laws. I can see guarding information that is critical to the role of troops in the field, but I don’t buy the notion that because some media outlets are shining light on some questionably secret programs, we have to vet news through the military to comply with arbitrary patriotic standards.

Conceivably, reporting any news that critiques government programs that are in any way related to the gigantic umbrella of “homeland security” could be censored. Got a tip on rendition torturing of prisoners? That could negatively affect the goodwill of our allies, and by extrapolation, help our enemies. What about merely protesting these acts in public? Censor it, go to the dissent pens!

Censorship is a slippery slope that absolutely should not be seriously debated in this country, as it eventually curbs our right to petition the government for redress of greivances. The role of the military is uphold our constitutional rights, not help the government trample them further.

40 Comments
  1. Myabe the folks at Fox took one look at “The Colbert Report” and took it as serious competition for their target audience. Now they are just trying to out-Colbert Comedy Central. ;)

  2. Is it April 1st or July 3rd ???

    I am so sick and tired of this…
    We are NOT – AT WAR – because congress has not declared it so. Just another of those world policing episodes…

    Bravo to the NYT for telling us (some) of what we need to know. And to hell with censorship here, there and everywhere!

    Pete

  3. I am just going to echo what Pete said:

    To all who think we are at war, please note that Congress has NOT declared war, thus we cannot be in a state of war.

  4. At least we have The Judge on our side. His opinion means a lot more than E.D. Hill or Brian the morning show sports guy.

  5. Poeple, look at the Chinese model. That is where the United States is headed, except instead of a “communist” political model, we will be going to a fascist model.

    It’s as plain as day that our corporate overlords and the lackeys in government that prop them up want the only freedom we have is the freedom to use our charge cards.

  6. Our system of government is not perfect; however, freedom is not free as millions of dead American heroes have proven over the centuries. May I educate all of those too young to remember that the USA debated bitterly to stay out of WWII until the WAR came to our shores. Remember 9/11 when shocked human beings of all walks of life came together, not as Democrats, Republicans, Whites, Blacks, Hispanics,Asians, but as Americans. There are people here today who want to kill you and everyone you love; liberals in our govenrnment are letting it happen in the interest of world opinion and the perception of evil-doers that America is split on insuring its own survival. The fore-fathers of this Nation did not suffer,and die to form a country where the norm is misery,fear,and death. It was Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. If some groups need to be censored or prosecuted to ensure this, I do not see the Constitution prohibiting this. May God Bless America!

  7. There are people here today who want to kill you and everyone you love

    Rich,

    All I can say is Waco, Ruby Ridge, and my grandmother who the FDA denied medication to.

    Now give me a police state anything but death.

  8. “It was Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. If some groups need to be censored or prosecuted to ensure this, I do not see the Constitution prohibiting this.”

    Hahahaha, oh that is rich, Rich. I can just hear W. stuttering that one out.

    “You see folks, we cherish freedom. To save it, we have to take it away from you, y’see? Y’see, folks, the terrorists hate our freedom, so we’re going to take your freedom away to preserve our way of life.

  9. “I do not see the Constitution prohibiting this.”

    try reading the first amendment. with your eyes open this time!

  10. Of course, I support the idea of toll bridges built by private enterprise without corporate welfare, but this

    http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/08/09/bridges/index_np.html

    is an icon of the vicious waste and outrages that we are all forced to pay for, use it or not!

    This bridge cost so much and serves so few, that it’d be cheaper to pay for their retirement in individual mansions with servants!

    How can we continue to call our government representative?

  11. Hey Ritchie Rich, that cool-aid taste good? Your government masters are damn pleased with your fascist boot licking.

  12. We are NOT – AT WAR – because congress has not declared it so.

    If Congress fails to declare the sky is blue, what color would it be?

  13. Our system of government is not perfect

    There’s no government like no government.

    freedom is not free

    No, freedom is slavery.

    May I educate all of those too young to remember that the USA debated bitterly to stay out of WWII until the WAR came to our shores.

    For those who haven’t kept up with the news, it was another in a long line of tricks to deceive Americans into war.

    Remember 9/11 when shocked human beings of all walks of life came together, not as Democrats, Republicans, Whites, Blacks, Hispanics,Asians, but as

    dupes.

    There are people here today who want to kill you and everyone you love

    They call themselves the government of the USA.

    Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. If some groups need to be censored or prosecuted to ensure this

    Clearly, nothing can ensure liberty better than censorship and group persecution. War is peace. Lies R truth.

  14. If some groups need to be censored or prosecuted to ensure this, I do not see the Constitution prohibiting this.

    Have you read it all the way to the end? Don’t forget the amendments. However, in practice, you are correct.

    May God Bless America!

    And help its’ government’s subjects and victims.

    It’s as plain as day that our corporate overlords and the lackeys in government that prop them up want the only freedom we have is the freedom to use our charge cards.

    The Libertarian Party now officially agrees with thus, but also wants to add the freedom to legally get high on a wider variety of drugs than is yet the case.

  15. Y’see, folks, the terrorists hate our freedom, so we’re going to take your freedom away to preserve our way of life.

    This is absolutely true. W only neglected to say that he is the chief terrorist. But yes, the terrorists do hate our freedom, and have to take it away to preserve (and pay for) their way of life.

    Trolls who charge tolls on the bridge to nowhere

    One of my favories is a bridge between New York and New Jersey where tolls are collected on both sides. I’ve always wondered what happens if you run out of money in between the tolls. Are there literally trolls living under that bridge, since they can’t exit it in either direction?

  16. The Libertarian Party now officially agrees with thus, but also wants to add the freedom to legally get high on a wider variety of drugs than is yet the case.

    And, if no amount of drugs and religion gets you over being a slave and prisoner, you will also be allowed to keep a gun for the purpose of suicide.

  17. Paulie,
    I am in Paris en route to Amsterdam. I am reading the newest bio on Tim Leary in my down time. Perhaps I will be able to tell you what color the sky is when I get there. ;o) I may even tell you what god looks like. I just have to remember where that mushroom shop was.

    I am totally kidding guys. I really just want to see the Heinekin brewery.

  18. Michelle,

    I am in Paris en route to Amsterdam.

    Cool! Enjoy the trip :-)

    I am reading the newest bio on Tim Leary in my down time.

    Interesting fellow. I knew him, but not very well.

    Perhaps I will be able to tell you what color the sky is when I get there. ;o)

    Get to Amsterdam, or get to the sky?

    I may even tell you what god looks like. I just have to remember where that mushroom shop was.

    Follow the yellow brick road down by the rabbit hole.

  19. You liberal fools. When Iran invades us because of leaked information and al Qaeda evades capture through secret information we shall see who is laughing.

  20. “Censorship is a slippery slope that absolutely should not be seriously debated in this country,…”

    Censorship should absolutely be seriously debated. That’s the only way to make sure it’s in the public view, and that sensible people will have a voice about it. Removing something from public debate only serves to push it behind closed doors, where extremists live.

  21. When Iran invades us because of leaked information and al Qaeda evades capture through secret information we shall see who is laughing.

    Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy.

  22. Say, how about provided the ENTIRE CONTEXT of the conversation, and not a carefully edited section of it, so that everyone can see the quote IN CONTEXT and decide what was being said. Perhaps she was saying it tongue-in-cheek? Dunno, because the quote is ripped out of proper context.

  23. If we wait for those Iraqisto come here and our daughters, we will know how evil those guys actually are. To say anything against the government in time of war is sedition. We have to look to President Bush to protect us from this evil. He will tell us, through his lieutenants, Vice President Cheney and Secretary Rumsfeld what we need to know. We have to stand behnd these people and not question their motives. Ein Volk! Ein Fuhrer!

  24. Paulie

    I have some advice for you. Why not start your own non-country in a nonexistent piece of real estate with a non-government. Now there you are, your own slice of utopia as you see it. How many people worldwide support your views? I would take a wild ass guess that it must be in the neighborhood of

    .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

    which leaves you all by yourself.

    Find an island, steal it, because buying it would give in to capitalist pigs, swim to it and start your own nonexistence alone.

  25. Where does FOX suggest we need an Office of Censorship? I just watched the clip twice and a question was asked by an interviewer to get the opinion of the person being interviewed . . . who than said we DO NOT need one.

    I know it is fun to bash what you do not support, but can’t we do it on actual events and happenings as opposed to ones imagined or overly inferred?

  26. Seems to be a bit of misunderstanding of fascist and facism. Facism is an economic policy where property is owned privately and controlled by the governemnt, communism is where the government owns and controls the property, and capitalism is where property is owned and controlled privately. Of course some “educators” employed by the government have redefined these terms to better suit the desires of their masters. BTW, anyone else question the re-defination of liberal and conservative, right-wing and left-wing?

  27. Julian,

    I’d say I have a lot more people who agree with me than you assume. I meet them all the time, because I talk to hundreds of people every day at work.

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