CA, IL, VT Legislatures Move to Impeach Bush

Bush impeachmentThree state legislatures — California, Illinois and Vermont — have discovered a little known and never utlitized rule of the US House of Representatives, Section 603 of Jefferson’s Manual of the Rules of the United States House of Representatives, which allows federal impeachment proceedings to be initiated by joint resolution of a state legislature. (thanks IanC!)

The move, which is being spearheaded by Democratic 527 group ImpeachPAC, shows potential in bringing serious charges against the Bush Administration, including felony treason, during a time when approval polls are at their lowest. However, it seems the idea may only be symbolic in nature, as a GOP-controlled U.S. Congress can easily squash the state-sponsored bills.

The debate rages on though, with several questions arising out of the legality of activities on several fronts including: domestic wiretapping; authorization of torture and rendition; misrepresentaton of Iraq intelligence; and the leaking of a covert CIA agent’s identity. Clearly, even if impeachment isn’t on the GOP’s table, they have a lot of ‘splainin’ to do if they want to shove things under the rug.

Even old Watergate investigative reporter Carl Bernstein is raising the alarm for at least an investigation into alleged crimes committed by the Bush administration in a recent Vanity Fair article, where he says:

In terms of imminent, meaningful action by the Congress, however, the question of whether the president should be impeached (or, less severely, censured) remains premature. More important, it is essential that the Senate vote — hopefully before the November elections, and with overwhelming support from both parties — to undertake a full investigation of the conduct of the presidency of George W. Bush, along the lines of the Senate Watergate Committee’s investigation during the presidency of Richard M. Nixon.

How much evidence is there to justify such action?

Certainly enough to form a consensus around a national imperative: to learn what this president and his vice president knew and when they knew it; to determine what the Bush administration has done under the guise of national security; and to find out who did what, whether legal or illegal, unconstitutional or merely under the wire, in ignorance or incompetence or with good reason, while the administration barricaded itself behind the most Draconian secrecy and disingenuous information policies of the modern presidential era.

Impeachment is certainly premature, but it may be a step in the direction to force an investigation into serious questions being raised. While I’m not on-board with the partisan motives of ImpeachPAC (their goal is obviously to put Democrats in power… lot of good that would do), I do applaud them in bringing the issue to the forefront to force prying eyes into this administration and hopefully spawn some type of formal independent inquiry (no partisan crap here please, just a straight-investigation on the facts alone).

34 Comments
  1. They won’t go far enough. Lots of people at the top – the whole Cabinet, the whole Supreme Court, most of the senior members of Congress – need to be impeached.

  2. I don’t think impeachment is premature at all. There are a lot of valid charges against him that need to be investigated. How many more more crimes shall he commit before it isn’t “premature”?

  3. impeach, arrest for treason all of them. and the congress critters who know about the lies and who have kept quiet, aiding these santanic monsters. Also the media who have helped cover up the crimes.
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  4. 911 THE LIE OF THE ELITE AND THE CORRUPT MEDIA

    look at building 7

    http://www.wtc7.net

    might want to look at these videos
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911+eyewitness

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psP_9RE0V2I
    check out this document fon the Cuban crisis
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

    watch this video also

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2

    welcome to the 911 truth movement http://www.911blogger.com

    Scholars for 9/11 Truth
    http://www.st911.org

  5. 911 THE LIE OF THE ELITE AND THE CORRUPT MEDIA
    look at building 7
    http://www.wtc7.net
    might want to look at these videos
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911+eyewitness
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psP_9RE0V2I
    check out this document fon the Cuban crisis
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

    watch this video also

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2

    welcome to the 911 truth movement http://www.911blogger.com

    Scholars for 9/11 Truth
    http://www.st911.org

  6. Impeachment is premature? Yeah, I guess you’re right.

    I mean, it’s not as if he has:

    spied on Americans illegally without warrants
    lied us into war, which resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents, and sparked off a civil war
    had people kidnapped and sent overseas to be tortured
    held people without charge or trial for years
    used the power of the federal government to get revenge upon his enemies
    etc…

    Maybe when he does all those things, it will be time to impeach.

  7. I agree with the impeachment, Bush does need to explain why he violated the Geneva Convention’s restriction on torture and why he illegally federalized the National Guard (who is serving in Iraq now)

    And now that Tony Snow from FOX news will be his new press secretary… It seems like Bush will only keep covering himself up rather than come clean.

  8. I don’t care if Bush is convicted or not. Though I think it should be done. I don’t care even if he’s impeached. Though I think that should be done, too. That is not the point. The point is having the spectacle of the Right-wing Republicans voting to cover Bush’s ass —or not even *consider* the matter–on camera, then go home to their districts and try to campaign for re-election.

  9. Now me, I only care about accountability. Not one single person here is under the illusion that this’ll actually succeed… but keep in mind that it might be a little closer than we think, given that there is *some* dissent amongst the republican leadership with Mr. Bush. After all — there are a very few whom might recognize that spearheading such an attempt… might just propel *THEM* to higher office, or greater tenure.

    We can’t get the bedroom out of the politics as it were, but we can damned sure co-opt their greed and gluttony into honesty and principle. >:)

  10. Great idea, but somehow I just don’t see it happening.

    If 7 Generals were scoffed at,PUBLICALLY, well I honestly just don’t know who we would respect enough to take any form of action on our behalf.

  11. Impeachment itself probably is premature, for the simple reason that there isn’t a majority in the House for it. But that doesn’t mean it can’t be talked about for the next 8 months when the necessary majority to pass an impeachment bill out of the House will probably exist.

  12. Thomas; given how long these things inevitably take, I wouldn’t be surprised if the procession starting now would wind up reaching its crescendo as much as over a year from now.

    Besides; it’s only premature because we’re accepting the argument that the President hasn’t broken any laws because he’s authorized by the Constitution to do whatever he wants to regardless of the laws passed by Congress.

  13. In less than half a decade, Bush and his cronies have destroyed the sanctity of world bodies, international treaties, domestic law, electoral institutions, corporate integrity, inalienable rights at home and abroad, and the most sacred document in American history; the constitution. He has literally turned democracy in America on its head.
    Whats worse is that the American people re-elected him, after he did much of the above, and big industry, the judiciary and the highest offices in the land support him in his ventures.
    As much as the majority of the world would like to see him burn in hell for an internity, it will never happen, because Democrat or Republican,…youre all guilty….(with the exception of a small number of like minded individuals).
    Ultimately, it doesnt matter who is at the helm because the imperialist mentality prevails enmasse in America. Indifference, apathy..call it what you want….the extent of the ingnorance is appalling.
    Hasta la victoria per siempre.

  14. Dear America,

    How can you support action against Iran for pursuing nuclear energy, which is completely within its rights as a NPT signatory, but not condemn America for passing nuclear fuel to India, for supporting Israels undeclared nuclear arsenal, and allowing North Korea to blackmail the world??

    How can you support the war in Iraq? America put Sadam in power. Bush lied about WMD. The US military, since its invasion, has tortured Iraq civilians, used chemical weapons and is in the process of establishing a puppet regime.

    How can you support the embargo on Cuba? Castro is despised by democrats and repulicans alike…For what? Providing free education? health care? housing? free food (since the embargo)? What a horrible person…..
    He limits political activity because 90 miles of his coast, there are lobby groups with millions of dollars ready to overthrow him. His goal is to keep Cuba Cuban. His goal is to provide for the people, not exploit them.
    History will absolve him

  15. 9/11 and the Pentagon.
    I expect you to dismiss the ideas below as canon fodder, as mindless conspiratorial babble, but time will tell.
    Whether complicit or directly involved, certain individuals in the Bush administration are responsible for the atrocities of 9/11.
    The pentagon was never hit by a plane.
    The world has never seen footage of the most secured and taped building in the world be hit by a plane. Where is the footage? where is the wreckage? where is the hole that would fit a wing span of a huge airliner? how come the missiles in place to protect the pentagon were not fired? And the most comic question of all; what the f&%k was Rumsfeld doing on the front lawn of the pentagon, helping the paramedics? Seems blaitintly theatrical to me.
    Btw, was it a coincidence that the part of the pentagon hit was under construction?
    Also, was it my some magical osmosis that there were no plane tracks or markings on the front lawn of the pentagon.
    Wake up America! Start asking questions

  16. Sorry for my previous comment. I am an idiot who is bi-polar and my mother beats me.

    EDITOR’S NOTE:This comment was not placed by Nigel Watt, but was made by some assclown impersonating Nigel.

  17. Stephen — check the ISP on the comment most previous to my own, see if it matches up with Nigel’s normal? It doesn’t seem to offhand simply by lack of website… and quite frankly name hi-jackings are the sort of things that make me worry.

    Either way: “Palestine” … you *just might* want to find a more appropriate format/forum for your conversation. Attempting to insult that small minority within a nation that agrees with your vision for that nation at all, well, it’s just not bright.

  18. Stephen — that right there is one of the things that I appreciate ’bout this blog as opposed to, say, lp.org/yourturn … moderation! :)

  19. Max — despite the current landscape inherently projecting failure for impeachment, the simple dragging out of skeletons and forcing them to dance accomplishes something.

    … makes you wonder why it hasn’t made any news elsewhere…

  20. George Bush and Dick Chaney are responsible for 911. Bush cannot stand trial for this crime until he is no longer president. I say hurry impeach them, then lets get on with the criminal investigation. Calculated premeditated cold-blooded murder to rule the world and make billions of dollars is a crime against all humanity and should be punished to the full extent of the law.

  21. People are pissed at This gov’t in general not just Bush… Though of course Bush is the largest problem and the biggest offender. What I mean is.. I’ve never seen this country more ready for a change than right now. this November it will be very hard for republicans to keep the majorities they now enjoy in the house and senate. Now majority may not swing over to the dems, but I wouldn’t be at all suprised if it did. If that does happens bush WILL be impeached.

  22. Nothing will move those in power, but a stronger power. These blog entries, while nice to know, do nothing to restore our republic. Lots of words but no teeth.

    I believe it is time to stock up, kiss your sweetie goodbye, and dedicate yourselves to the revolution to oust the Bush regime.

    If that’s hard to discern, go here:

    http://www.light-to-dark.com/Stephen_Pitt_Cartoons.html

    Get it? I am dedicated to the overthrow of the Bush Administration by any means necessary. Do you all understand that?

    NSA: Didn’t Gonzo you get the memo?

  23. Mueller: Do your fucking job and protect and defend our Constitution. One thousand sworn federal marshalls should be enough to remove the junta.

    Americans are waiting. Do your fucking job.