Is your first grader thinking of sex?

She may be after school today.

Judges on the 9th U. S. Circuit Court of Appeals cited Prince v. Massachusetts while ruling that parents do not have the sole right to determine when their children are exposed to sex.

Palmdale School District, in California, requested permission from the parents of 1st, 3rd, and 5th graders to allow participation in a survey. The stated purpose of the survey was to guage early trauma and help overcome learning difficulties.

Well if there was no trauma before, there certainly may have been after. These young students were asked sexual questions about “having sex feelings in my body” and “touching my private parts too much.” Beside the obvious fact of the subject matter being age in-appropriate, where is the outrage over the state claiming the right to raise your child?

12 Comments
  1. A good reason why public schools should be abolished and for profit private schools replacing them. Parents then could shop for the right fit for their belief systems. Vouchers could be issued to all families with children.

    Competition may increase standards. Some sort of standardized testing would have to be mandatory to gauge the success of each school.

    It could not possibly be any worse than what we have in the public schools with the contorted and twisted teaching of history and lack of good science and math teachers.

  2. You didn’t know that the state was in control of your child? Silly you. This is assinine. However, I know what I was thinking about in 1st Grade.

  3. If parents are not allowed to make that decision, then the state must have taken that power from the parents.

    Proving once again, that your kids are wards (*** cough*** property ***cough***) of the state…

  4. I think the wording in the opinion is especially telling. It states that “parents’ liberty interest in the custody, care, and nurture of their child resides “first” in the parents, but does not reside there exclusively, nor is it “beyond regulation [by the state] in the public interest.”

    Several cases are cited and as I sit here, all I can think is OMG, I submitted to this voluntarily just by sending my child to a public school. My kiddos have not been exposed to soul baring surveys, but they are well taught to question the state’s claim of authority. Respectfully, of course. Would hate to have some other state agency involved. ;o)

  5. What kid does not have “sex feelings in my body”?

    How does one define “touching my private parts too much”?

    How much is too much?

    My opinion is that we are taking basic child development and human nature and turning it into yet another place for government involvement.

  6. Just to clarify, the parents gave consent to the school for the survey. The crux of the holding is that, if you send your children to public school, you don’t get to second-guess how the school does its teaching, or more accurately, you don’t have a Constitutional right to control how the school teaches your children. There are plenty of other options, e.g. firing the school board, seeking damages for the trauma, etc.

    See here for more detail.

    Yours truly,
    Nick

    …clearing up…

  7. Nick,

    Exactly. That’s why I like the whole private school thing. Because, if you don’t like it, you can find another one (you’ll just pay more). But hey, peace of mind sometimes has a $ amount.

    -Rick

  8. My issue, as a parent, is that the state (or at least the ISD) misrepresented what the survey was. If they had even implied that they would ask the type of questions that they did, most parents would not have complied. In my opinion, the crux is that sending your child to public school is seen as a compulsory act. You are forced to pay in taxes what might be spent better on tutors. The problem is that many of us are knee deep in shit before we realize that there is another way. I do allow the state to educate my girls on certain subjects. (I could not do calc/trig/bio if I was paid.) But they get other subjects at home. My little one is 14. Her summer reading list included 1776 & 1984. Not assigned, but suggested- by mom. Oh, if I had known there was an option when I was young…