First, of all, I don’t watch TV, I don’t even own one (though I do see HBO and 60 Minutes when I have dinner every Sunday at my sister’s house). Even if I did, I most certainly would not be watching Fox News. However, the David Asman interview with Gary Nolan yesterday would have been an exception. I’m fed up with Democrats and Republicans trying to “out-pork” each other and screw up this country with stupid laws and regulations. They have both failed, and Nolan certainly has the gusto to say so and has a plan to reverse their malfeasance.
Interview with Presidential Candidate Gary Nolan (L)
24 March 2004
Fox News: The Big Story With John Gibson
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GARY NOLAN (L) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE:
Third-party presidents have happened in this country before. Abraham Lincoln was a third party. There were the Wigs, the Democrats and the Republicans. So it can happen.
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SV: Good point on Lincoln, what would have helped would have been a contrast to the current incumbent parties. But hey, it’s a video clip and was probably edited for length and to be a good lead in.
It can happen. That was presidential candidate Gary Nolan, another third party candidate. Nolan is with the Libertarian Party. Of course, he set his sights on the Oval Office. And he joins us now with today’s big question — why should people vote Libertarian, Gary?
GARY NOLAN (L) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE:
David, you should only vote Libertarian if you want a really strong economy for the middle class and the poor, job opportunities, if you want a clean environment, if you want national defense and affordable health care.
SV: A little humorous rhetoric here, I’d hold it against him if this was a longer interview, but this is actually quite funny in it’s own right.
But Gary, so far, you have said nothing that the other two candidates are not saying.
That’s right. They’re all saying it, but only the Libertarian party can deliver.
SV: More rhetoric from the cuff, I hope this is not a crutch for him.
What do you deliver that the other parties don’t? Let’s put it that way.
How about really reducing the size of the federal government? I’m not talking Washington speak. I’m talking really reducing the size of the federal government. If we do that, David, and we get rid of this cumbersome and burdensome income tax, imagine what happens to the economy and to the middle class?
SV: Here we go, this is what makes Nolan (and the Libertarian party) appealing to true fiscal conservatives. Remove the social programs, remove the pork, remove the taxes that pay for them. Less government spending, and act in the true sense of government which is to help society get along, not a way to harness some to pull others along.
Let me just stop you right there. You are here to
say that the first thing you do as president is eliminate the IRS?
No. I didn’t say that, David, what I said is we have
to reduce the size of the federal government and reduce spending and get rid of the IRS
SV: Of course it’s gradual, I think he should better outline his plans for cutting government spending and what he plans on cutting. Again, this is a winner with Republicans, but I don’t see a lot of Democrats swinging to the idea of voting out social programs.
So you would eliminate the IRS?
Eventually, yes, absolutely.
SV: This is a winner with everyone, and no other party ever talks about the IRS directly. The code words are always “cutting taxes” and “budget surplus” but he wants to completely abolish taxes, I’m in awe and surpised no one else jumps on this.
You wouldn’t put the cart before the horse then? You would slowly lower the cost of government and then eventually get rid of it?
As quickly as we could, yes. If you look at what happened when we had a Democrat in the White House and a Republican legislature, David, we were in gridlock. And the rate of growth for the federal government was 2.5 percent to 3 percent. Now the Republicans have the House, the Senate and the White House. The rate of growth is 7 to 10 percent and that doesn’t include defense. If you are an advocate of small government and you vote for George Bush, you are advocating big spending. You want to send them a message you can’t vote for John Kerry. But if you vote for me, one of two things will happen, either I will get the momentum to win or I will tip us back into gridlock.
SV: This is the most simple and concise explanation of why our government spending is through the roof that I have heard to date. He nods to the fact that he’s a spoiler for Republicans, but at the same time, it’s a spoiler that would benefit our fiscal outlook. This is the statement that will have Karl Rove shivvering. Nolan is obviously the choice for fiscal conservatives who are aghast at the spending that Bush has been doing.
Well, you are absolutely right, the president’s spending has been indefensible in terms of his domestic spending, let alone from the 9/11 stuff that was thrown
in. But the big question is how you are going to do it? You have a lot of people in Congress who are going to fight you tooth and nail.
Just think of me, David, as your designated driver in a room full of drunks. It requires leadership. It is something that is sadly lacking in Washington.
SV: This is the funniest quote from the whole interview. I mean, you can’t even tell if he’s being ironic, because there is a real history of drunks getting into office.
And from whom – final question, we only have 10 seconds – from whom do you think you would draw your votes? If people do vote for you, are they going to be Democrats or Republicans?
I suspect we are going to draw from both sides, probably more from Republicans, but that’s all right because we can tip them back into gridlock. For more information, they can go to GaryNolan.com.
SV: And with that “…more from Republicans,” Nolan surely has caught the eye of Rove. But can he draw enough attention to become a viable choice, especially in a year when the stakes are higher than in recent history? If he can get more interviews like this, it may be likely.
All right, Gary Nolan, the Libertarian candidate.
Gary, good luck. Thanks for coming in. Appreciate it.
Of course I’m biased towords Nolan, I’m a Libertarian. But I think he’s done a great job of sketching his plan for sustained economic reform that America badly needs.
Next week I will be publishing an open letter to George Bush and one to John Kerry (and possibly one to Gary Nolan) regarding their stakes in the 2004 presidential election and leading America out of the abysmal state we’ve created in the past few years.