Winning Their Hearts and Minds

SOTRibbon1.gif“Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in, our mission is very clear: disarmament.”George W. Bush

No quagmire in Iraq, you say? Here’s yesterday’s news:

The tours of 4,000 American soldiers who had been scheduled to leave Iraq in the coming weeks have been extended for up to four months, signaling that there would almost certainly be no significant troop pullout before the year’s end, military officials and analysts said Saturday.

“We don’t believe in planners and deciders making the decisions on behalf of Americans.”George W. Bush

The new security plan allows almost no room for significant troop withdrawals by the end of 2006, Anthony H. Cordesman, a military analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said in an interview on Saturday.

“I think they’re in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency.”Dick Cheney

If any troop pullout takes place in the coming months, “it would be so cosmetic that it would be meaningless,” he said. “It would be statistical gamesmanship.”

“Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein’s support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people.” George W. Bush

“People are now talking about 2009 as the goal for achieving really serious security,” he added.

“There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today.”Tom DeLay describing U.S. troop deployments in Bosnia in 1999

As of Saturday, there were 127,000 American troops in the country, Colonel Johnson said. Numbers fluctuate when units overlap while rotating in and out of Iraq. So the total troop level will rise above 130,000 as new units rotate in and the 4,000 troops are held here longer.

“Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed.” -”“ George W. Bush

The military said Saturday in a written statement that “the duration of the temporary deployment of these Iraqi and coalition forces in Baghdad will be determined by conditions on the ground.”

“Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”Herman Goering

posted by Stephen Gordon
  • Michael H. Wilson

    So does the LP website have a great big banner saying
    Get Out, or something to that effect?
    Of course I know you love me fer askin’ that.
    M.W.

  • http://www.mywaronpoverty.com Becky

    I enlisted in the Army with the knowledge I would go to Iraq. Had I not gotten sick, I’d be there now.

    I can forgive a lot. I can’t forgive a President lying to me, saying we were going to disarm a defenseless country when all we were going to do was occupy it for the oil.

  • Julian

    Becky

    If we are taking the oil from Iraq, why the hell is gasoline now over $3.00/gal?

  • Julian

    President Bush has made a huge mistake. We should never have gotten involved in a war we have no intention of finishing.

    We should have killed as many of the males between 13 and 80 as fast as we could to neutralize any threat.

    It seems to me, reading war history, the idea is to use overwhelming force against any and all obvious and potential threats. Males between the age 13 and 80 meet that criteria.

  • Michael H. Wilson

    Julian maybe we should also have required a declaration of War as required in the Constitution and this would have been discussed a bit more beforehand.
    M.W.

  • IanC

    Julian — so does the entire planet.

  • GILMORE

    We should have killed as many of the males between 13 and 80 as fast as we could to neutralize any threat.”

    Holy smokes is that the extent of reflection you’ve made from this?

    You sound like Leonard Peikoff saying we should have just nuked all these idiots years ago.

    JG

  • http://warcriminal.freeservers.com Sol

    >If we are taking the oil from Iraq, why the hell is >gasoline now over $3.00/gal?

    Did it ever occur to you that besides being corrupt mass murderers maybe our rulers are gross incompetents too? Although I’m sure there are many in and associated with this administration who are quite happy that gas is $3 a gallon.

  • http://warcriminal.freeservers.com Sol

    >We should have killed as many of the males between 13 and
    >80 as fast as we could to neutralize any threat.

    Sure. Kill’em all and let God decide. But you forgot to salt their land too.

  • Julian

    Sol

    Good Idea. I had not thought of that but I guess if enough nukes were used that would have the same effect.

  • IanC

    Re: Gasoline @ $3.00+:

    We didn’t go into Iraq to lower the gas price. We went to make sure that it stayed 3.00 USD rather than 3.00 EUR.

    It wasn’t about keeping the oil flowing into America. It was about keeping oil denominated in USD’s.

  • Julian

    We have two choices to wean ourselves from Middle East oil:

    1. Shut down the radical environmentalists so we can exploit the known vast reserves of oil and coal we have and build as many nuclear power plants as needed.

    2. Do without all the necessities and conveniences we enjoy that are energy based if we are unwilling to do the first choice.

  • Wes P

    We went to war to get Shrub re-elected.

  • http://warcriminal.freeservers.com Sol

    >We went to war to get Shrub re-elected.

    As Rummy would say, you go to war with the Shrub you have, not the Shrub you wish you had.

  • David Tomlin

    If you want to render territory uninhabitable for a prolonged period, I think anthrax is the best choice.

  • http://www.mindmerge.net James Carter

    “We should have killed as many of the males between 13 and 80 as fast as we could to neutralize any threat.”

    No… we should not have invaded the country in the first place. If saddam and his family was the problem, we have teams for that sort of thing. Very skilled teams…

    I understand your point, and similar tactics have been used throughout history and the world. This could however also be condemned as ‘cleansing’… eh… the mistake was to invade.