V for Vendetta

There are few movies that get me excited enough to tell others about. The last one to fit into this category was Aaron Russo’s documentary “America: From Freedom to Fascim“. Well, it has been trumped. “V for Vendetta” is a libertarian masterpiece, to say the least. As Butler Shaffer puts it:

My wife and I just got back from watching “V for Vendetta.” WOW!! Not only is this the greatest anti-state movie I have ever seen – nothing else comes close in my mind – but one of the best films (regardless of content) I have seen. The acting is superb (especially that of the heroine); the production, script, and direction are marvelous. Even if this film had been about anti-vivisectionism it would be a great film.

This film far, far exceeded my expectations. It explores the dynamics of tyranny; how we are ruled by our own fears; and, . . . well, go see it for yourselves!

I couldn’t have said it any better. This movie is a must see.

UPDATE: You know it has got to be a good movie when the religious wackos are labeling it:

a vile, pro-terrorist piece of neo-Marxist, left-wing propaganda filled with radical sexual politics and nasty attacks on religion and Christianity.

UPDATE 2: Butler Shaffer has a more thorough review of the movie here.

posted by disinter
  • http://www.tom-hanna.org Tom Hanna

    Why are they calling it “neo-Marxist”? Why would a neo or any other variety Marxist movie “got to be a good movie”? I haven’t seen it and the reviews I’d seen made me think it sounded worth seeing, but Hollywood does tend to temper any tendencies toward anti-statism with even stronger attacks on property rights and justifications for wealth redistribution.

    That said, did it strike you that the writer must be pretty damn ignorant to call the English Parliament building “one of Western Civilization’s most enduring symbols of democracy and republican government with a small ‘r.'” I’m sure Queen Elizabeth will be surprised to learn that she is no longer the monarch, that an English republic has been declared.

  • http://www.bachtalk.net Stephen Bach

    I saw the movie last night, and I agree completely. The whole time I was thinking how much I agreed with the politics of the movie. V for Vendetta makes a great case for limited government.

  • paulie cannoli

    V for Vendetta makes a great case for limited government.

    Limited government is like limited cancer. You can’t really limit it, it just grows back. Gotta cut it all out!
    (Forcible government, I mean).

  • mikehorn

    After seeing the movie last night I agree… I can’t wait to get a transcript for some of the dialogue. But, I did share a concern with a reviewer on IMDB.com who said:

    But, perhaps the biggest reason that V for Vendetta makes me uneasy is that there is an undeniable attraction to V and his rebellion, that kind of nihilistic, lost-cause allure that holds such sway with youth and people prone to melancholy.

    So, what do you think will happen on November 5th this year?

  • disinter

    Mike,

    There are a lot of negative reviews – a lot of them from people who didn’t completely understand the movie.

    I suspect a movie such as this frightens the statists a bit.

  • Michelle Shinghal

    Two friends were at my place last night raving over the movie. I came to check email and VanDyke was raving over it. Log on to HoT and you guys are digging it too. Hubby is on call tonight- I think the little one and I are seeing a movie. Thanks guys!

  • http://goldenliberty.blogspot.com AB

    I just have to say that the article by the Christian bigot hating on V for Vendetta is really worth reading. They try to portray V for Vendetta as marxist and “pro-homosexual bigots”. It just shows who the real bigots are. They’re pissed because they show homosexuals as nice and caring…Just read it.

  • Michelle Shinghal

    If all homosexuals, and all homosexual activists, are such goody two shoes, how come so many of them resort to unsafe sexual practices that spread deadly diseases, and how come so many of them promote pornography, support the murder of unborn children through abortion and molest underage children?

    I guess Dr. Ted doesn’t know that most molestation is done by heterosexuals and that gay sex doesn’t produce children. His “Dr.” status must be honorary.

  • paulie cannoli

    Lol. I don’t think he actually said gay sex produces children, he said “many of them” support the “murder of unborn children through abortion” – which proves what?

  • http://www.freecolorado.com/ Daniel Ong

    For a more objectivist point of view, see This review (spoiler alert) from a former Libertarian, who examines the movie’s ideology and compares the graphic novel and film versions.

  • Stephen Gordon

    Tom,

    I’ve not seen the movie, yet, but Ari Armstrongs’s review (link in previous comment) probably explans why it was called neo-marxist in other reviews. Armstrong refers to fascism, and anti-fascism is often called Marxist by folks on the traditional right.

    I’ve been called the same for opposing eminent domain deals for Wal-Marts.

  • Stuart Richards

    I have the comic… it is, without a doubt, Alan Moore’s masterpiece. I have yet to see the movie, but I will as soon as possible. I would recommend that anyone who can do so buy the comic, though… you won’t regret it.

  • Stephen Gordon

    My wife and I just got back from the movie. I don’t wish to ruin it for anyone, but I’ll suggest that I clearly saw some similarities between this movie and my ground floor view of when the wall fell in Europe.

  • Stephen Gordon

    The only remotely Marxist stuff I saw was an attack on corporate-government relationships (i.e. fascism). The movie made no value judgement on either religion or homosexuality. It attacked abuses of organizationed religion (and its relationship with the state) and the systematic persecution and prosecution of homosexuals.

    If opposition to the government murder of gays is Marxist, I guess I must be one, too. And Fred Phelps must be the tooth fairy.

  • Devious David

    “Marxist” is just the latest smear du-jour for people who think they are snooty high-brow know-it-alls. Whenever you see that word for the next several months, you might as well ignore it and whatever blackout it emanates from. These are the same types of people that would consider Rush Limbaugh to be a bonafide intellectual and unparalleled scholar.

    Have you ever met an idiot that DIDN’T think that they know everything? Nah… didn’t think so.

    Tell us more about the Wall, Stephen! My strongest read on your comment there, well – I have to disagree totally. Nothing spectacular is eminent, so long as you don’t factor in a stock market crash or derivatives meltdown or currency crisis. You know little things like that. But really nothing spectacular vis-a-vis the thought process or beleifs of the typical American. Nada, zilch, zero.

  • paulie cannoli

    And Fred Phelps must be the tooth fairy.

    Fred Phelps a fairy? That would explain a lot. Self-hatred projected outwards can be quite deadly and destructive.

  • http://21cr.blogspot.com DaveT

    They’re lucky I read HoT. Thanks to the name, I immediately figured this was based on a sue grafton novel. I’ve never read any of her novels, but I figured they suck because the names are just so cheap. And there’s so many. Turns out it has nothing to do with her. For a second there I was thinking maybe I was wrong about her. I guess I still could be as I’ve never read any of her books. But since this movie isn’t based on any of her books, I guess I won’t have to.

    What a stupid name though.

  • http://www.badnarik.org Jon Airheart

    What a badass movie. Saw it last night. I’d just like to note that there is a shipping company in the film named BFC that delivers something to people that helps to accelerate the tipping point of revolution. ;)

  • disinter

    Jon,

    Wow! Good catch! Badnarik for Congress (BFC). Let’s hope so…

    Unfortunately BFC = British Freight Company

  • http://www.libertyfilter.com putrimalu

    The Christian view of art also sees Jesus Christ as the ultimate standard of all artistic excellence.

    Huh? So, a movie’s “excellence” is proportional to how much Jesus is in it? I’m not sure I get this one. In fact, this guy’s whole review was a load of crap. The above quote just stuck out in my mind.

    Another thing about his review: How is the portrayal of the 2 main characters in Brokeback Mountain “hateful”?

    I think this guy just has a group of stock labels – “vile”, “hateful”, “Marxist”, “bigoted”, “radical” etc, that he applies to things he happens not to like.

  • Artus Register

    Damn my procrastination! I allowed Mike Nelson to beat me to the initial review! ;)

    Actually, I’ve yet to watch this movie although I swore I would see it opening day. The good news is that a mighty crowd of other people did. It topped the weekend box office and the 2nd place film wasn’t even close.

    http://www.movietickets.com/

    Perhaps it will, in some small way, awaken some apathetic souls.

  • disinter

    Artus,

    That wasn’t a review by any means (just a plug)… feel free to write a real one.

  • http://www.thedefeatists.com comandante agi

    Yeah, the movie rocked. Very enjoyable. I heard that the film played down the anarchism of the original graphic novel.

  • Ian C

    The one significant element of both the G.N. and the movie with regards to libertarianism over anarchism…

    There is a scene wherein V discusses with Evey that the world his actions are creating is one people such as him do not belong in.

    And THAT is what makes the movie, in my view, Libertarian. Anti-state sentiment is only proper when the state is in the wrong.

  • Stephen VanDyke

    Ian C, that was the moment that clenched it for me as well. Force is acceptable as an agent of countering bad government, with varying levels allowable.

    Public figure assassination was presented as easily one of the most feasible things to do… from the bloviating commentators to religious instigators all the way up to top government officials.

    Thomas Paine and Sam Adams would be proud of the message in the movie and would see how easily it is to extrapolate our own current government situation.

  • Ian C

    SVD — I am always leery of making statements (publically anyhow) relating our government to a fascist state.

    It’s such a knee-jerk word. In my opinion the USA is in fact a proto-fascist state. (“The Government” still has to hide its dirty laundry by and large.) But once you invoke it with “the Masses,” in my experience, the conversation’s over.

    It’s like the Nazi clause. As soon as somebody invokes Nazis or Hitler, any hope of rational, intelligent, or productive conversation is just plain gone.

  • paulie cannoli

    Good discussion of the movie is at

    http://blog.lewrockwell.com/

    See also Roderick Long today at Austro-Athenian Empire

    http://praxeology.net/unblog03-06.htm#08

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3527B2BHQ3YXOKPLNC2P2ARS7Q ben k

    The film starts out with “the enemy” talking about America falling because of godlessness & a complete breakdown of morality and civilization.  Yet the heroes of the film are collecting items like the Koran and talking about “it’s good message” lmao. It follows the de facto marxist programming of Christianity – bad | Islam – good.  Perhaps the writer/s put the “hero” behind a mask as a metaphor for marxism masquerading as liberalism?

    • http://stephenvandyke.com Stephen VanDyke

      It follows the de facto marxist programming of Christianity – bad | Islam – good

      [citation needed]