Teacher Suspended for Insulting Hitler

BushHitlerAfter Overland High School student Sean Allen conveniently taped teacher Jay Bennish bashing Hitler, he has finally gone public. And rightfully so. The blatant vilification of Hitler came after President Bush’s State of the Union address, where the anti-Nazi teacher had the audacity to compare Hitler to Bush:

“It’s our job to conquer the world and make sure they live just like we want them to,” Bennish can apparently be heard saying on the tape. “Now I’m not saying that Bush and Hitler are exactly the same, obviously they’re not, OK. But (there are) eerie similarities to the tones that they use.”

The nerve! It is obvious that the two are not similar. As the People’s Blog points out:

1. Hitler was elected.

2. Hitler rebuilt the German economy.

3. Hitler was an artist. (Bush doesn’t even write his own bad poems.)

4. Hitler was not an alcoholic.

5. Hitler was a gifted speaker.

Thankfully we have the Patriot Act(s) to ensure our protection against anti-Nazi terrorists like Jay Bennish. He and the rest of the evil politicians, judges and dictators can go straight to hell with their allusions!

Gott Mit Uns

UPDATE: Listen to the audio here.

posted by disinter
  • http://360.yahoo.com/pong_god Robert Mayer

    I love the graphic!

  • Will Jones

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loos

    Any true American who watches the above, free video will recognize the fact that Bush committed 9/11 the same as his grandfather’s client, Adolf Hitler, (Google “Prescott Thyssen Auschwitz”) committed the Reichstag Fire. Inarguably, Bush is Hitler-redux.

    Schoolteacher Jay Bennish is simply putting forward thoughts that any who claim spiritual descent from the Jeffersonian Whig Founders of the United States of America should have been realizing right after they heard GHW Bush’s public statement confirming his “inability” to recall his whereabouts upon hearing of President Kennedy’s assassination: W’s only “qualification” for office.

    Death for Treason

  • Ian C

    Something to encourage the weary; the original article you linked to in this has a poll connected to it. Here’s the current standings:

    Should this teacher be fire?
    Yes: 29%.
    No: 55%
    Suspended: 14 %
    Not Sure: 2 %

    Adding the suspension & fire people together, it seems public support thinks by a fairly wide margin (12%, with a majority) that he should be left to teach.

    Hoo-Rah 1st Amendment Rights!

  • http://None Kevin Willis

    I hope that someone will burn down this guy’s house.

    Then he can really experience what Hitler was like.

  • Heartfield

    Give Bush time, Kevin Willis. Give him time. He will burn all of our houses down.

  • Dennis Anthony Porto

    This really is a problem. Although you may think the teacher is speaking some degree of truth, his role as a geography teacher does not include making political rants. I heard his ‘rant,’ and he reminds me of a bleeding-heart liberal teacher I had in high school for History. I learned nothing in this class besides how horrible teachers can be when they chose to put their socialist-liberal beliefs at the top of the class’ agenda.

  • http://libspot.org/member/mlaursen/blog1/ Mike Laursen

    Not a nitpick, just FYI. I always thought Hitler was democratically elected, too. But the other day someone pointed out that it’s not true: he lost the election, but was subsequently appointed Chancellor of Germany.

  • http://www.LibertyFilter.com putrimalu

    I hope that someone will burn down this guy’s house.

    Then he can really experience what Hitler was like.

    Right! I mean, Hitler would destroy people’s homes, bomb their neighborhoods, have them mowed down with machine guns, imprison people without trial or charge, use his secret police to spy on citizens, lie to his own citizens, and just generally hold himself above the law.

    They’re not even remotely similar!

  • Jon

    Our President Bush is a American Dictaor like Germany we are oppressed by war and are hated by all countries of the world. Our so called ‘American Democrocy’ is a lie and our Senateall they do all day is sit on their butts and talk about how good of people we are and how were loved by other countries well all thats a lie to our poeple of our great country.

    So I say Power to our people and down with our Democrocy!!

  • Dennis Anthony Porto

    putrimalu- hitler killed six million jews

  • Dennis Anthony Porto

    Also note: the teacher’s rant was pro-communist. In a 20 minute rant, he told students that tobacco farms should be poisned and the capitalist system should be overthrown. If anyone comes close to hitlers idealogy (which they dont), it is this teacher, who took advantage of the fact that he had 25 impressionable students that were forced to listen to his bullshit.

  • Sunking

    “uh Dick, best build those concentration camps now”

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    What’s an ‘immigration emergency’?

  • Sunking

    I heard this tape on Sean Hannity’s 3-Hours-of-Propaganda and NOTHING that teacher said is false. He was trying to demonstrate the thinking of people in other countries. Stuff like “Who has the largest arsenal of WMD?…USA” “What is the most violent country in the world…USA” (maybe based on total gun deaths?), etc, etc.

    Listen to the tape before y’all give those knee-jerk reactions. The teacher was speaking truth!

  • Dennis Anthony Porto

    Even if somehow you believe what he said is the truth, he is giving a political speech funded by taxpayers to an audience who is required by law to listen. PLEASE tell me you do not think this is acceptable.

  • http://www.LibertyFilter.com putrimalu

    [blockquote]Even if somehow you believe what he said is the truth, he is giving a political speech funded by taxpayers to an audience who is required by law to listen. PLEASE tell me you do not think this is acceptable. [/blockquote]

    It’s definately not.

  • disinter

    Dennis,

    Although I can’t find any printed reference to it (surprise) I did hear on a television broadcast this morning that Bennish provides a disclaimer of sorts to students before they take his class warning them that he is very opinionated. I am not so sure they are required to take this specific course from this specific instructor “by law”.

  • http://www.LibertyFilter.com putrimalu

    oops. I mixed HTML format with BBCODE! I was quoting a post by “Dennis Anthony Porto”.

  • marsel

    bush was the one that started the war in australia and exploded the world with cute little kittens and he said he shit his pants on t.v. 27 times

  • disinter

    Dennis,

    So you are saying it is okay for the teacher to teach, just not what you disagree with? Correct?

  • Sunking

    He spoke the truth. Won’t hurt the students to hear the truth.

  • http://www.LibertyFilter.com putrimalu

    putrimalu- hitler killed six million jews

    I know, that’s why I said there was no comparison between the two of them. Bush has only killed about 100,000 Arabs, and 2300 Americans. They’re not even in the same league!

  • Sunking

    The day is still young, putrimalu! He’s not finished yet! Have you not heard the beating war drums to invade Iran?

  • disinter

    Towards the end of the class, Bennish goes on to say, “I’m not in anyway implying that you should agree with me, I don’t even know if I’m necessarily taking a position. But what I’m trying to get you to do is to think about these issues more in depth and not to just take things from the surface.”

  • nick hitler

    this is coll on how the are comparing bush to my great great grand father. or at least i think it was my great great grand father.so i will follow in his foot steps and rule the planet stragetheras and i will go to mount olympus and climb to the top and chille with the gods =)
    :0, ~:), =’), i rock!!!!!!!!! so chizel my dizel peace .

  • Sunking

    Pretty good work on this post, btw, Mr. Mike Nelson! You got talent!

  • Dennis Anthony Porto

    “I am not so sure they are required to take this specific course from this specific instructor “by law”.”

    Students are required to attend school by law, and depending on what state, they may also me required to take a geography course by law, which is what this “teacher” was supposed to be “teaching.”

    “Although I can’t find any printed reference to it (surprise) I did hear on a television broadcast this morning that Bennish provides a disclaimer of sorts to students before they take his class warning them that he is very opinionated.”

    How does this justify my tax money going to this man’s political speeches? In addition, how does this teacher’s speech apply to geography? The teacher may as well provide a disclaimer to the school principal that he is not going to do his job.

    “So you are saying it is okay for the teacher to teach, just not what you disagree with? “

    Its okay for the teacher to teach so long as he teaches geography. Is that too outlandish of a claim?

  • disinter

    Students are required to attend school by law, and depending on what state, they may also me required to take a geography course by law, which is what this “teacher” was supposed to be “teaching.”

    Ever heard of home schooling?

    Its okay for the teacher to teach so long as he teaches geography. Is that too outlandish of a claim?

    Very well then. So if it was a history or political science class it would be okay then?

  • http://goldenliberty.blogspot.com AB

    Sounds like a socialist. Against the war on drugs and invading other countries but doesn’t understand the free market.

  • http://goldenliberty.blogspot.com AB

    But he speaks a lot sense. It sounds like a much more interesting class than most history classes. It sounds like the kids are actually paying attention. That’s better than most classes. I’d rather pay for this guy to teach than to someone who no one pays attention to.

  • Andy

    Hitler had the Riechstag Fire.
    Bush had 9/11.

    Hitler had Fatherland Security.
    Bush has Homeland Security.

    Hitler had the Enabling Laws.
    Bush has The Patriot Act.

    Hitler started wars of aggression.
    Bush started wars of aggression.

    Hitler abused drugs like amphetamines and possibly heroin.
    Bush abused drugs like coccaine and alchohol.

    Hitler was into the occult and was a member of the Thule Society.
    Bush belongs to The Order Of Skull And Bones and The Bohemian Grove, both of which engage in occult rituals.

    Hitler recieved funding from Prescott Bush.
    Prescott Bush was George W. Bush’s grandfather.

  • mingo

    it’s all about “black history”, Histories that was hidden under the shining light of ‘Democracy’ and Propoganda. Most of the reasonable people understand that what’s really wrong is not how he compared Bush to Hitler*,it’s the shameful sinful painful black histories that he bought up makes American lose their ‘innocence’ created by government propoganda.
    well, High school students is prob too young to hear these ‘black history’, but I do support colleges to open ‘black history’ class to discuss the crimes we commitmented during our glorious justiful history. Andrew Jackson to indians isn’t the first, Bush to the mideast won’t be last…
    *(they are all human beings, similar in genes.. if u think they’re different, u just support Nazi’s theroy, they are different from other human being)

  • ysandrea

    Yay for hippies!

  • Dennis Anthony Porto

    “Ever heard of home schooling?”

    This obviously isnt available to everyone.

    “Very well then. So if it was a history or political science class it would be okay then?”

    If opposing views were allowed, sure. In a class where twenty minutes is spent by the teacher ranting one point of view, I would doubt that opposing views were given then same amount of time for a rebutal.

    “I’d rather pay for this guy to teach than to someone who no one pays attention to.”

    However, a lot of people dont want their money going to this man. what about them?

  • paulie cannoli

    I hope that someone will burn down this guy’s house. Then he can really experience what Hitler was like.

    paul) Well the people who died when the Bush Crime Family burned down their place of employment (WTC, 9-11) found out what Bush is like, and so have several hundred thousand Iraqis after he has burned down (among many methods of destruction used) their houses. But give him time, he is only getting started.

    Stealing two elections (2000, 2004) and invading Afghanistan and Iraq are just a bare beginning. So was letting New Orleans sink so Halliburton can “rebuild”;

    The BCF (Bush Crime Family) have plans to invade many countries including Venezuela, Colombia, Iran, Syria….

    Watch out for the “other shoe” to drop (2nd 9-11 possibly nuke/bio/chem) when impeachment looks likely or the 2008 election isn’t close enough for Diebold to steal.

  • paulie cannoli

    putrimalu- hitler killed six million jews

    The number is hard to prove. My great-grandparents and extended family were killed, some by Hitler and some by Stalin. Eastern Europe in the 1930s and 40s was a deadly place, especially for Jews. Of the 6 million most were killed in Eastern Europe, as were 7 million or so non-jews; an unknown number, possibly also in the tens of millions, were killed by Stalin. Many of these were Jews too, many weren’t. Same goes for the commissars in charge of the Killing.

    Millions more died in the war between Hitler and Stalin after they broke their pact.

    Prior to Hitler and Stalin, Jews were only Jews until they embraced Christianity. It was convert or die (or, sometimes, be exiled). H & S both decided that a once a Jew, or 1/16 Jew, always a Jew, and the only choice was die; conversion did not count. Hitler and Stalin may themselves have been self-hating Jews or part-Jews.

  • paulie cannoli

    Stalin is the one in charge of reporting how many Jews were killed by Hitler.

    How many of those may have been killed by Stalin? Stalin also killed numerous Christians before, during and after the war. Same goes for Muslims in those nations of Caucasia and Central Asia who refused to embrace state socialism and an atheist state, and Buddhists/Lamaists in Siberia.

    Bush’s holocaust is just getting started.

  • paulie cannoli

    Even if somehow you believe what he said is the truth, he is giving a political speech funded by taxpayers to an audience who is required by law to listen. PLEASE tell me you do not think this is acceptable.

    Teachers do this all the time. It’s just that it’s regimist politics which are typically presented. The official propaganda blather of Ds and Rs, CNN and Fox, etc.

    One thing for Soviet Russia, even us little kids (and certainly adults) knew that official pronouncements of The Party and State-owned Media were lies. Americans are generally far too gullible in this regard.

  • paulie cannoli

    Bush has only killed about 100,000 Arabs, and 2300 Americans.

    I would have to say several hundred thousand Arabs, and add the 3,000 Americans on 9-11-01 to your number. That’s just for starters, I’m sure there’s much more. Off the top of my head I think FEMA’s combination of intentional and corrupt bungling of Katrina cost most of the lives there.

    http://infowars.com/articles/new_orleans/katrina_briefing_reveals_levee_sabotage.htm

    Speaking of FEMA and Halliburton.

    http://infowars.com/articles/ps/gulags_for_american_citizens_in_final_stages.htm

    Gulags For American Citizens In Final Planning Stages
    Halliburton sex slave trade criminals prepare camps for political dissidents

    FEMA’s plan to build concentration camps for millions of Americans were uncovered in 80s

  • Andy
  • paulie cannoli

    High school students is prob too young to hear these ‘black history’

    Not all the case, except for what’s been done to dumb down teenagers over the last several generations.

    http://infowars.com/articles/us/first_amendment_americans_know_more_about_simpsons.htm

    Teens are ADULTS. Turning them into children has been deliberate social engineering to destroy society.

    “Ever heard of home schooling?”

    This obviously isnt available to everyone.

    It was before “public schooling” and people were generally much better educated.

    In addition, how does this teacher’s speech apply to geography?

    Geography touches on many other subjects, including history and politics. It’s omnibus learning.

    However, a lot of people dont want their money going to this man. what about them?

    Quit paying and work to make quiting paying easier.

  • Dennis Anthony Porto

    Paulie, dont forget to add in all the people bush killed by causing Katrina (sarcasm)

  • paulie cannoli

    No sarcasm needed. He did not cause Katrina, but did kill
    most ofthe people who died as a result. Follow the links I already posted.

  • mingo

    [quote]High school students is prob too young to hear these ‘black history’

    Not all the case, except for what’s been done to dumb down teenagers over the last several generations.

    http://infowars.com/articles/us/first_amendment_americans_know_more_about_simpsons.htm

    Teens are ADULTS. Turning them into children has been deliberate social engineering to destroy society. [/quote]just to be a little realistic, let’s start these “black history” in the college so we can have a better support for HS student, afterall, it’s still a concept yet to be theorized, don’t rush on the process, most of the “black history” was created by rushing too, rushing to expand the land, rushing to expand ‘Democracy’, and so on.. we should learn from the mistakes while we are discussing it

  • Tom in Skowhegan

    Hi Mike,

    I’m sure glad you’re not the Mike Nelson from MST3K; I couldn’t watch those shows any more if you were. Anyway, judging from your photo, I’m surprised that your primary school lets you stay up this late. In any case, when you’ve grown up in, say, 10 or 15 years, and assuming you have the minimum requisite intelligence, and have avoided public school brainwashing, it might be entertaining to hear you pontificate about what a moron you were back in 2006.

  • paulie cannoli

    just to be a little realistic, let’s start these “black history” in the college so we can have a better support for HS student, afterall, it’s still a concept yet to be theorized, don’t rush on the process,

    So start by teaching the disinfo as truth, and then reveal it to be false after age 18? (average)

    I didn’t have too much problem with it when I was a teen, or many (most?) teens I knew. Although many were either too stoned, too ambitious, or both, to care.

    Actually I started getting into it about age eight.

    But even before that, I had no problem conceptualizing that Soviet propaganda was BS. We left when I was seven. Unlike other kids, at that age I had no problem letting everyone – kids and adults – know I thought Soviet Lies were BS. Luckily for me, and them, my parents were unbeknownst to me at that time already planning to leave, and the party bureaucrats in Siberia were hearing about me from several levels up. So they were eager to get rid of us…

  • paulie cannoli

    from LRC Blog, NS

    Thanks to Wally Conger for highlighting this great quote from the late Samuel Edward Konkin III (SEK3), who passed away two years ago last week:

    “Remember, the Enemy we are fighting is ten thousand years old. It lurks somewhere inside nearly every person on Earth. It controls half the wealth and all the weapons of mass murder. It speaks over all the airwaves and nearly all the presses.

    It is Evil. It is huge. It is the State. Can a rag-tag band of rebels such as we hope to prevail against such an overwhelming terror?

    Yes, for the State is massive, yet fragile, for it is built on a foundation of lies. These lies are only now being consistently exposed. Help wield the Sword of Truth and the Shield of Valor. Renew your dedication to freedom, anarchy, and the agora.”

    Those interested in learning more about Konkin’s brand of libertarianism should check out this site.

  • mingo

    to paulie cannoli:
    many things we learned from HS need to be re-stated in the college, from HS we might know that atoms were made up by P N E, but later on we will be taught about wave property of particles, the E cloud, the quarks with a fraction of charge and so on.. similar process is quite common, ’cause certain concept is complicated need more time for discussion.
    the experience u had in former USSR surely help u think more about the news. but I believe we just had a misunderstanding, I don’t mind have these kind of discussion in HS, but I prefer to have it in college first, by teaching in the HS alone won’t help too much, both college and HS together will be great. and for the first step, I prefer to college to HS.

  • disinter

    Mingo,

    But you don’t mind that the official state-approved brainwashing begins in public schools at a much younger age?

  • paulie cannoli

    mingo

    Hmmm, well it all depends on what level the kids are coming along. Most good homeschooled kids can learn college-level material (currently) well before high school age. Most well before puberty. But it depends on the parents as well as the kids. It’s hard to teach what you don’t know, although sometimes it’s possible to do both at the same time. How many parents were themselves homeschooled? What about their parents? Etc.

    Even when it comes to government schools, it’s helpful to comparatively examine curricula from past decades, other countries, etc. Current American norms are clearly sub-standard in terms of potential development.

    300,000 copies of Common Sense were circulated, and presumably read, in the late 1700s; about 10% of the 13 colonies’ population at the time. Would 10% of Americans be able to read and understand it today? If not, why not?

  • Brian O

    Mike,

    Are you freaking high? This Bennish dude’s remarks are off the hook, off the reservation, and this dude is probably off his medications. This biased BS has no place in a public school classroom… this is a perfect example of why public schools are places of indoctrination, and not education.

    It’s also a great example of why educational vouchers should be given a chance. Liberals are hell-bent on sticking up for a womans’ right or “choice” to kill her unborn child, but they won’t give parents the “choice” of where, how and by whom their living child is educated.

    Liberal logic – the ultimate oxymoron.

  • Dennis Anthony Porto

    Well said Brain. People on this form tend to be too quick to agree with anything that may make Bush look bad. This is instead a simple demonstration of why public schools are bad.

  • http://libertarianyouth.blogspot.com Nigel Watt

    Excuse you? High school students are too young to hear the truth? (or “black histories”) What the hell makes you say that?

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    Dennis Anthony Porto,

    Next you’ll be telling us how Hitler was a socialist because he said so.

    Get educated moron. While I don’t consider Bush, Hitler; you cannot (honestly at least) deny that the Neo-Conservative ideology is close to and certainly resembles the ideology of fascism.

    It can easily be argued that Bush’s polices resemble neo-fascism.

    With that said, if the teacher was just ranting then his comments were out of line. However, if he was trying to rile up a debate then more power to him.

  • sweetcheecks

    holy cannoli said: “No sarcasm needed. He did not cause Katrina, but did kill most ofthe people who died as a result. Follow the links I already posted.”

    You really, R-E-A-L-L-Y need to get back on your meds son! Jaysuz, what a fruitcake!

  • sweetcheecks

    Holy cannoli says: “Stealing two elections (2000, 2004) and invading Afghanistan and Iraq are just a bare beginning. So was letting New Orleans sink so Halliburton can “rebuild”;”

    It’s really too bad President Bush can’t be KING. That evil, yet brilliant Carl Rove should decee Bush King-of-the-World in October 2008. No need to bother with an election. Perhaps you need to increase the dosage of your meds to get your severe BDS in check. Watching the Dems hysteria over the last two elections is quite entertaining! Get used to it! It’s over baby….YOUR SIDE LOST and ain’t gonna be coming back any time soon! You’ve been marginalized. Get it?

  • J. Edwards

    Sweetcheecks – that statement was about as un-American as you can get. A KING? And you have the audacity to pick on someone else? I’m not GOP or Dem but the mid-terms will be something of a Thermidorian reaction and the balance of power will most likely shift. Speaking of meds, you might want to consider a strong anti-psychotic yourself. And it’s not Dem hysteria you dolt, it’s your fellow citizens! Americans you pile of crap! I fought in three wars for my countrymen’s freedoms, including yours, so why don’t you take some of that pre-pubescent angst and do something constructive like SIGN ON THE LINE. Put your ass in Iraq and let’s see what you have to say then.

  • Public School Cynic

    This reminds me of the time the secretary of Education called the NEA (Teachers Union)a terrorist organization.

    An apology was quickly made to Hamas and Hezbollah for the comparison.

  • sweetcheecks

    Hey J. Edwards…’Balance of Power’ shift? In your dreams…
    Now to your point about my being un-American for the Bush should be King remark….who started this whole conspiracy theory to begin with, huh??? How un-American are the likes of KOS, DU and the rest of the LLL for starting this absolute crap that the Repubs want to make Bush KING to begin with? Why don’t you hold those responsible for this un-American nonsense instead of your typical LLL response of blaming the repubs? It’s really getting tiresome, you know? You gotta learn to laugh buddy….thats what the whole Bush-King conspiracy is to us on the RIGHT. Just another one of your batshit crazy conspiracy theories! Get a sense of humor…read the Pew Research Poll which historically shows ..repubs are HAPPIER people. My comment about Bush should be King and your response shows just who has a sense of humor and who does not! Try laughter…it might help reduce the seething anger you feel at us on the Right.

  • Matt

    How dare they use their freedom of speech to encroach on our freedoms!

  • disinter

    The funny thing about all this is that the Republican nutjobs on here actually think we are liberals (in the modern socialist sense).

  • Dennis Anthony Porto

    “How dare they use their freedom of speech to encroach on our freedoms!”

    The teacher does not have freedom of speech in his classroom, he is under contract by the school.

    “Get educated moron. While I don’t consider Bush, Hitler; you cannot (honestly at least) deny that the Neo-Conservative ideology is close to and certainly resembles the ideology of fascism.”

    Ok. Do you not remember last time we argued about this (I believe you called me a ‘moron’ then also)? I agree with this statement.

    “With that said, if the teacher was just ranting then his comments were out of line. However, if he was trying to rile up a debate then more power to him.”

    He was just ranting, and even if he was trying to spark up a debate by grandstanding for twenty minutes, that is not the role of a geography teacher.

  • medstudent

    Dennis Anthony Porto:
    Perhaps you disagree with the teacher drawing parallels between W and Hitler.

    But look at this situation in a broader context. A high school student secretly taped a teacher (this is a criminal act and yet the student has not been detained or charged ), and then released this defamatory material over radio in an attempt to destroy the career and reputation of his instructor. Why? Perhaps an undisclosed personality conflict between them. Perhaps a bad grade?
    Under Mao in China, teenagers were told to turn in their teachers for anti-establishment views, soon thuggish groups roamed the schools with impunity tying unpopular teachers to chairs and at times, killing them in a lord-of-the-flies manner, with the blessing of the state. Hitler created the Hitler Youth Squads, Noriega created the Dignity Batallions, both groups of teenagers who realized now they had the power to rough up adults with state approval. Many disciplinarians were the first attacked.

  • me

    I live in Denver and it was said on the news last night that the class is actually Politics and Geography, not just Geography. The second think I’d like to point out is that if it weren’t for democrats/liberals there’s no telling what kind of brain washing/homogeneous climate meltdown would go on here. As always, checks and balances are in effect. Thirdly, my mother in law grew up in Germany and had family members in the Nazi party. She often talks of how the Hitler climate took over and it’s honestly not that different than the republican/christian/war thing going on in America. People, we invaded a county under false pretense and before you say it, no, thay did not knock down our buildings… So, loose the bravado and think critically about things, that’s what liberals do. Just follow the money, that’s all you have to do to figure things out. Truth is permanent.

  • Darren

    I got here via a link from somewhere and won’t be back–the sound of barking moonbats hurts my ears.

  • Atlanta Dave

    Sweetcheeks says: Repubs are HAPPIER people … Well, it is said that not all Republicans are stupid people, but all stupid people are Republicans.

    And if ignorance is bliss, y’all are probably pretty happy.

    The fact is, Republicans are viewed as leaders by their party members because they do not hesitate to make a decision – right or wrong.They get a gut reaction to a problem (or are guided by Devine Intervention in the case of GWB), declare it to be a “plan” and plow forward – damn the torpedoes. The stupid follow, confusing the cock-sure attitude with leadership.

    Democrats on the other hand, stop and think, weigh the options and come to a thought-out conclusion and plot a path forward. A kind of intelligent approach to problem solving. As this takes time & public dialogue, it is interpreted (by the stupid) as being indecisive and flip-flopping (which it was in the case of JK).

  • Michael Hampton

    Ha, and Republicans don’t think? It’s been my experience that both the Republicans and Democrats frequently come to the wrong conclusions, whether well thought out or not.

  • Michelle Shinghal

    Michael, I think it is sooooo sweet that you worded that last comment they way you did.

    It’s been my experience that both the Republicans and Democrats frequently come to the wrong conclusions, whether well thought out or not.

    Let’s allow them a while to figure it out. hehehe

  • Michelle Shinghal

    oops- not they- the

  • Grantarchy

    It’s so pathetic that this teacher is being persecuted for having the audacity to engage the students with thought-provoking ideas that are unpopular. Whoever says that “both sides” are not presented, where do you think we live? Every day, we’re spoon fed patriotism by the ‘bush’elfull. The common mantra is ‘support our troops’ and if you’re not for us, you’re against us. We *live* in a society that has this mindset and *that’s* where the other side is presented. He tells his students that they don’t have to believe what he says, only that he wants them to *think*. That is where the right is so abysmally lacking. They don’t think. They support a bumbling moron as president, not being able to think past their own selfish interests. This is classic case of people getting riled up because he asked these students to think about the way things *are*, not necessarily how we want them to be. Not necessarily how things *should* be. All of you witchhunters have nothing better to do.

  • Bill Smith

    I do not send my children to school to be indoctrinated by liberals or conservatives. For my tax money, I expect them to receive a well-rounded education with views from all sides. This teacher is a nut. If he’s teaching geography, then that’s what he should be teaching. If it were my kid I would pull them out immediately.

  • Grantarchy

    “This teacher is a nut.”

    Typical mudslinging.

    “If he’s teaching geography, then that’s what he should be teaching.”

    This was a geopolitical class for advanced students. I feel sorry for your kid if exposure to new ideas, popular or unpopular, evokes the knee-jerk reaction of removing him from school. What this teacher said is apparently enough to make you hide in your little hole, which would be comical if it weren’t such an indictment of the ignorance of the general populace. Maybe the government should just issue press releases for students to study so we can be sure that they’re not exposed to anything “bad”.

    What’s also pathetic is that you people hide behind the falsity that this is about teaching both sides, when in fact it’s about revealing a side that you don’t like, or don’t agree with. At least be honest and own up to your right, conservative roots. It’s not that you’re upset that both opinions weren’t debated, it’s that you think yours is gospel.

  • Torfinn

    As I remember it, I was thoroughly indoctrinated with Conservative viewpoints, albeit the one Vietnam Vet teacher we had that actually taught us to use one of our most valuable resources, CRITICAL THOUGHT.

    I don’t see anything wrong with a teacher telling kids in a “Geopolitical” class that they should perhaps review historical lessons in contrast to current events, to be honest I want nothing more than for my kids to be exposed to such thought process, whatever side they come from they’re leading the kids to form their own opinions. That’s how it’s supposed to be.

    I don’t somehow see that the teacher was ridiculing a student that they did not believe the same thing, which is how everyone here is acting.

    In fact,I commonly am seeing students wearing t-shirts from the opposite side of the spectrum however being suspended from schools, and ridiculed not just by teachers but by their entire school districts. So, to the right wing complaint fest that follows. SUck it up.

  • http://squeezethis.blogspot.com Jeremy

    I listened to the audio and thought the guy sounded more like a cable news pundit than a social studies teacher, which is pretty alarming. I think he may be in the wrong profession, and that’s what everyone is fretting about.

    Teachers should not *be* the discussion in a class, they should be guiding and moderating it. Clearly that’s not what this man was doing.

  • Mike G

    The graphic is correct. Republicans are Nazis, as Democrats are Communists. That is one reason why I joined the Libertarian Party.

  • Charlotta Beavers

    We are living during a pregnant time in which our country is so divided that dialogue is almost impossible. Remember the good old days when William F. Buckley debated with other guests on “Firing Line?” Oxford defines debate as “a formal discussion on a particular topic …, in which opposing arguments are put forward.” Today the talking heads just sling opinions at one another.

    Too often these days, we fall into line as a conservative or a liberal and start bashing the other guy across the aisle. We live in a democracy, which is a participatory system. We have a responsibility to one another, and ourselves, and the world, to have open minds, to explore issues in-depth from a variety of perspectives, and to think.

    One of the most important skills that we can learn is critical thinking. I would like to issue a challenge for us to dialogue about the issues Mr. Bennish raised. And I suggest that we found our opinions upon evidence from credible sources readily available to everyone.

  • http://democracy2.blogspot.com Steve Magruder

    Even though I agree with the suspension and that public school teachers should stay away from bias, I also believe that social studies teachers should present a balanced view of American history–and this of course, should include richer information about how our white ancestors wronged Native Americans and enslaved and later disenfranchised Africans (continuing to this day with the War on Drugs and “electile dysfunction”), information about how our “free market” system came to be and how it *really* works (it’s largely an not-so-free oligopoly), info about the military-industrial complex and the continual push for war, even when the U.S. isn’t threatened, etc. The list goes on and on, and our children, not to mention all adults need to learn a full, balanced view of our history.

    If what happened with Bennish has any longstanding value, it’s that it reminds us about the tremendous, ongoing damage done to us by the systematic teaching of whitewashed history to our children.

  • Grantarchy

    @Steve Magruder – if you listen to his 20 minute lecture, which I have, that’s exactly what he was talking about. He touches on how we, to Native Americans, were terrorists. He talks about how we pre-emptively went to war in Iraq, about the dark side of capitalism, etc. You say you agree that he should be suspended, yet you want all this stuff that got him suspended taught in our schools. Which way do you want it? It seems that there is no possible way this guy can win.

    @Charlotta – well said and very true. It seems that people get polarized more and more to one side or the other. I think that compromise has become viewed as a sign of weakness, or giving in.

  • Pat

    Lets all agree on this, Bush is an idiot and all the critisism he gets is well deserved.

  • paulie cannoli

    It’s also a great example of why educational vouchers should be given a chance.

    Not. Back door to making private schools into de facto regime miseducation camps.

  • paulie cannoli

    You really, R-E-A-L-L-Y need to get back on your meds son! Jaysuz, what a fruitcake!

    Backatcha. Either address the facts I linked or STFU. Just because it seems ridiculous to those whose view of the world is shaped by regimist disinfo sources does not make it false.

  • paulie cannoli

    Next you’ll be telling us how Hitler was a socialist because he said so.

    Socialist-fascist. It’s not necessarily always a contradiction. Stalin was one too.

  • paulie cannoli

    It’s really too bad President Bush can’t be KING. That evil, yet brilliant Carl Rove should decee Bush King-of-the-World in October 2008.

    And probably will, if not sooner. De facto kinda has already.

    No need to bother with an election. Perhaps you need to increase the dosage of your meds to get your severe BDS in check.

    Soviets were fond of forcibly medicating dissidents. Nice job. And there is actually a good chance they won’t bother with an election next time. What’s BDS, and what makes you hallucinate that I have it?

    Watching the Dems hysteria over the last two elections is quite entertaining! Get used to it! It’s over baby….YOUR SIDE LOST and ain’t gonna be coming back any time soon! You’ve been marginalized. Get it?

    I’m not a Democrat, don’t have a dog in that fight, but as a neutral observer predict they will be back quite soon, and I’ve been marginalized since forever; the game is not played for us, just on us – we’re the field, get it?

  • paulie cannoli

    Now to your point about my being un-American for the Bush should be King remark….who started this whole conspiracy theory to begin with, huh???

    Bush, Ashcroft, et al. They don’t really bother to hide it anymore….all publically available documents and statements.

  • paulie cannoli

    NSGOPers are happier, huh?

    I can see how that could be true. I was a little kid in the USSR and Communist Party members seemed like the happiest people there then.

  • stef

    I’m not sure if this is the right style and content for a geography lesson, but pretty much everything Mr. Bennish says is correct and reflects what probobly most people on this planet think.

  • http://www.theunderview.blogspot.com Matt

    First of all, if you listen to the tape or read the transcript, you’ll learn that Bennish was only trying to stimulate discussion in an advanced course that had already been tagged a critical thinking class.

    Second, political issues, particularly resource disparities, colonialism, and the like, are very much a part of a geography curriculum. The biggest mistake people are making on this issue is that they assume geography is just about maps. Educate yourselves, folks.

    Finally, silencing Jay Bennish will not achieve some kind of political neutrality or balance in public schools. For every Bennish, there are a hundred teachers routinely spouting conservatism, patriotism, and pro-Bushism, and nobody ever tape records them, hounds them, persecutes or suspends them.

    So unless you are comfortable with high schools ONLY giving one point of view, you should defend Bennish. Plainly speaking, he did absolutely nothing wrong.

    Visit http://www.theunderview.blogspot.com

  • Christine Tolman

    Please visit and sign the petition to congress:

    http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/

  • Harry

    WOW..the MOONBATS are running amuck in here. This teacher needs to worry about teaching…not indoctrinating. He had a ‘captive audience’ in his class, and his position as teacher made his ranting completely out of line. Most 14,15yr old students can feel intimidated to some degree by any teacher and teachers have to understand this and temper there rants. I would heartily encourage students everywhere to tape their teachers…they work for us and there should be nothing going on in ANY classroom that can’t stand the light of day. I would be curious how his class would do on a GENUINE geography test….

  • Harry

    Christine,

    Visited your link….whew! Is that an aluminum foil hat your wearing?

  • moshe

    just like i thaught, Limbaugh was right after all about you maggot-infested FM type idiots.
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030706/content/institute.guest.html

  • http://www.libertyfilter.com putrimalu

    just like i thaught, Limbaugh was right after all about you maggot-infested FM type idiots.

    You “thaught”? You’ve been listening to too much AM. Might wanna try XM or Sirius.

    And if you’re quoting Drugs Limbaugh, the Oxycontin King, well, why should we take anything you have to say seriously?

  • bye

    How long? How long will it take until Bush will be held fully accountable for all the evil he has done? Whenever he was somewhat close to being slapped, something “big” happened – convenient? Good planning I say.

  • Fuck Off

    dipshit

  • Harry

    bye,

    you’ve been skipping your medication again, haven’t you.

  • Christine

    Harry,

    No hat. Eyes and mind are open. Ignore the articles and look at the peer reviewed papers. I’m going with the physics rather than the lies.

  • Harry

    Christine,

    What do I care about physics. Bush has been a strong leader and we just need to finally find those darn WMD, then we\’ll teach them all a lesson.

  • Michiel Stam

    You Americans are trying to push responsibility away. Bush not elected?? You fucers embrace this domshit for the second time remember. So suffer. hahaha

    The Netherlands

  • Harry

    Michiel,

    are you off your medication again?

    You\’re mistaken, we don\’t push anything away – we take actions and eventually the world will be a better place. Our country has successfully shown strong leadership on a global level, and will continue to do so until it\’s fixed.

  • Michiel Stam

    Calling your leader a twat doesnt mean you should get upset this bad, really…

    Tell your mudpecker friend that strongleadership doesnt mean killing everybody or taking someones rights, alright?

    Thanks a lot. Though your a yank, we can still be friends!

  • Harry

    You don\’t understand, if fixin things means applying force than that\’s what needs to be done. We got to do what we\’re asked to do. Period.

    It\’s just wrong to undermine all the good Bush has done, bringing democracy to Iraq etc. What the teacher did is outright shortsighted.

  • Michiel Stam

    Well what I do understand is that your glorious leader dragged us dutch into this stupid war using lies about weapons of massdestuction. They only reason there might be peace in Iraq is that they will be all killed by each other or by american forces. If junior did not snort that much he could see that being powerfull is not the same thing as having the truth on your side. This president is making Americans hated all around the world for a barrel of oil.. This teacher deserves a medaille, its a great idea to start learning Americans to think for them selves.

  • paulie cannoli

    Matt: Exacly right.

    Harry: Exacly wrong, unless you are sarcastic.

    Limburger, RUSH: Stop the tape. Stop! You’re teaching human geography, whatever the hell that is.

    paul, to flush rush: Human geography is one of the two major branches of geography, along with physical geography. Limburger and his minions continue to exhibit ignorance, whatever that is.

    flUSH: Hold it a second! I had to look at the transcript to make sure I heard that right. Mental mapping and cultural landscapes. This I guess is what human geography is. So I guess they learned what is the highest point on the female body, and how do you get there. What is this, mental mapping? Sounds like a propaganda class. Mental mapping and cultural landscapes.

    paulie: LOL. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ignorance and I should have said willfull ignorance.

  • paulie cannoli

    moshe/flusher….

    RUSH: I don’t remember him saying any of that, listening to this tape. He’s out there saying that the US is guilty; other countries have a right to attack us, destroy our crops like we’re destroying their crops. Okay, anyway, it’s image making time for Jay Bennish. He’s out there now. And, of course, he has every right to do it. But I’m learning more and more about this human geography, and I’m wondering why wasn’t this taught when I was in school? I might have liked school if we had something like human geography. Mental mapping? Cultural — what is the word, cultural what? Cultural landscapes. Ha-ha-ha. What a bunch of absolute hogwash.

    paul: Well, if Flush’s school didn’t teach human geography, that may have been part of his problem. Too bad, he may have turned out to have been less of a moron had he liked school better. Perhaps they did teach it, but he was asleep, or daydreaming. Lack of intellectual curiosity may have been Flush’s downfall.

  • paulie cannoli

    Harry, Just saw 96. Confirms that you are actually correct, and good job.

  • paulie cannoli

    You Americans are trying to push responsibility away. Bush not elected?? You fucers embrace this domshit for the second time remember. So suffer. hahaha

    paul) Actually no. Bush managed to get away with stealing two elections in a row; most Americans either can’t vote, choose not to for a variety of reasons (some legitimate, some not), and even had he in fact been elected legitimately by most Americans (this would take approx. 150 million votes, about 1.5 times the Bush + Kerry total), how would this make those who did not vote for Bush responsible?

    Are all Europeans responsible for EU regime actions, or those of Hitler?

  • paulie cannoli

    Calling your leader a twat doesnt mean you should get upset this bad, really…

    If I did not vote for him, what makes him my leader?

    Well what I do understand is that your glorious leader dragged us dutch into this stupid war using lies about weapons of massdestuction.

    Well, you Europeans have not invaded America to depose him, so why don’t you accept responsibility now that he is glorious leader not just of the US but the whole world. Now you can suffer too. Hahhahaha!

  • Michiel Stam

    Canolli,

    Alright, so you are not responsible. Her in Europe nobody knows about Bush stealing the elections for two times in a row. Well, i mean I only am aware about the florida-scam

    Are all Europeans responsible for EU regime actions, or those of Hitler?

    Man, the place where I live in was bombed flat to take over power there were never any proper elections. Also Hitler is death for 60 years. Most young people on earth think he is a suckerplayer or something.

    If I did not vote for him, what makes him my leader?

    Thats the democracy-cross you have to carry, hehe

    Well, you Europeans have not invaded America to depose him, so why don’t you accept responsibility now that he is glorious leader not just of the US but the whole world. Now you can suffer too. Hahhahaha!

    That hurts.. but fortuned I dont pay the tax to keep him in this position.

  • Roni Mitha

    TO KEVIN,
    So Bush did not burn your house but he did burn Afghan and Iraqi homes. Did u see 60 minutes where they tortured to death an innocent Afghan cab driver. O course to u that is saintly hypocrite.

  • Roni Mitha

    There are lots of Americans who do noble deeds. But the violent ones have killed more people than rest of the world put together so that does make America the single most violent nation on earth. The evil ones who carelessly shoot their guns during hunting and do not get charged with involuntary manslaughter.

  • Coach

    I think that George Bush should have walked into the class room, hooked jumper cables up to the Sand Monkey Loving Nut Sack Teacher, And proven a Teacher Right for once.

    You sorry-ass Libs think crapping on this country, and indoctrinating young people is not what Hitler was all about? You sad ass excuses, need to nurse on Mary K Letourneau’s 6th grade boy friends Bottle.

    Protect your kind and just maybe your Camel Jockey lovers from the Middle East will save you.

  • Roni Mitha

    So he talks about burning down tobacco farms my father got heart disease at 40 years of age mostly tobacco use. A lot of people under 18 are using tobacco so it is hurting a lot of people really bad. Tobacco has to go since it is the silent killer.

  • paulie cannoli

    You sorry-ass Libs think crapping on this country, and indoctrinating young people is not what Hitler was all about?

    “Love of Country” was Hitler’s refrain. So were racial epithets, us-vs. them polarization, scapegoating of external enemies (and “external agents” within) and torture was considered excusable, fun, and desirable.

    The more things change, the more they remain the same.

  • Fred Garvin

    Wow.

    I’m still amazed at the dangerous ignorance and arrogance of you people. To compare Bush to Hitler is as innacurate as it is offensive.

    Immigration:
    Trying to stem the tide of ILLEGAL immigrants is necessary and overdue. To equate it with the nazi round-up of certain ethnic groups is ignorant. This country was built by immigrants. They work hard and play by the same rules as the rest of us and find success and opportunity. I wonder what they think of all the spoiled american kids who don’t even know the difference but won’t let that get in the way of their projected self-hatred.

    WMD/War with Iraq:
    Why must everyone pretend that Saddam didn’t snub the UN and it’s inspectors for twelve years!?! Regime change in Iraq was US policy for most of Clinton’s administration, he just never acted on it. If Bush lied, so did the everyone you trust.

  • Roni Mitha

    In my comment #105 I forgot to add that the Afghan cab driver who was tortured to death by the civilized American army was an innocent man, as proven later.

  • Grantarchy

    Fred, the only person with a dangerous amount of ignorance is you and people like you. As someone said earlier it’s not only ignorance, but willful ignorance. In a way it’s incredible people can be so polarly divided with absolute conviction that they are in the right. My personal view is that the people on “your side” are not good long-term thinkers. You follow blindly and promote policies that are contrary to the best interest of the American people. And the sad, sad thing is that you don’t even realize that you’re doing it. This country is in such worse shape after Bush took over that it’s not even funny. Yet people continue to vote for short-sighted policies and a promote a Republican agenda that greatly favors the wealthy and absolves them from contributing, in the way of taxes, to the greater needs of society. But, go ahead and blindly keep your money so that the next generation can pick up the slack and deal with all the crap we’re leaving them.

  • paulie cannoli

    Stam,

    Thats the democracy-cross you have to carry, hehe

    Why? I am against democracy.

    That hurts.. but fortuned I dont pay the tax to keep him in this position.

    Me neither.

    FG,

    What makes “illegal” immigration “illegal”? By what right?
    I am a “legal” immigrant, and hope to soon by a “legal” emmigrant; and I realize only that the difference is a stupid, immoral regime claim on a right to decide who can cross their line in the sandbox and who can’t. If they don’t own all the property in this part of North America, they have no such legitimate right.

  • paulie cannoli

    FG,

    Why must everyone pretend that Saddam didn’t snub the UN and it’s inspectors for twelve years!?!

    Why must anyone pretend to care for UN inspectors (would you allow them in YOUR country?) And where are the weapons? The inspectors quit when the USSA regime would not accept they did not find any, and smeared them. Yet the USSA regime has not found them in 3 years with 150,000+ centurions, either.
    They were a delibererate lie, a fact which has now been acknowledged. The USSA regime tried, but failed, to produce fake WMD evidence.

    ! Regime change in Iraq was US policy for most of Clinton’s administration, he just never acted on it.

    But he did manage to kill about a million Iraqis, mostly children. His Reichsminister Albright said it was “worth it” and the Bush Crime Family has killed just as many, but at a much greater cost in American lives and stolen tax money. Both the Bush and Clinton War Crime Families sit on one mafia commission, the USSA gangster regime.

  • paulie cannoli

    If Bush lied, so did the everyone you trust.

    Sorry, we don’t trust them either. They both lied. Two million human beings, two thousand of them American, have died as a result.

    Trillions of dollars have been stolen to pay for it, and two countries (at least) lie in ruins, along with much of what was still left of American freedom.

    The USSA regime staged 9-11 in the same way Hitler staged the Reichstag fire. They have perpetrated genocide, in Iraq and Afghanistan, here (against American natives) and in many parts of the world through crony regimes, imperialism, used WMDs (Japan), chemical weapons (Iraq), torture, chattel slavery and corporate-welfare state fascism.

    They have robbed, killed, enslaved and raped millions. And they are getting worse – much worse.

  • Roni Mitha

    Again If Bennish talks about burning tobacco farms, that is a very patriotic thing to say. Do you know how much loss this country incurs because of health problems due to tobacco use. I think companies should be allowed to not hire smokers. How are 15 and 16 year old kids able to smoke. By the time these kids are 35, that is after about 20 years of smoking, they could have heart disease. Lets just hope that they have better treatments to treat heart disease then.

  • kk bould

    To Christine-
    I followed your link to check out the ideas and decided to sign the petition, but the last question in “Step 2″ gave me pause: “Do you have children?” it asked, without explanation as to why this was relevant or being asked. Given that legal representatives (A Mr. Woo, I believe) of the administration are on record as saying that no law could prevent the President from authorizing torture on *the children of* suspected terrorists, including crushing the childrens’ testicles, this odd petition didn’t seem like the best time to share my family’s structure. Maybe you can explain why this question was asked. Another oddity about the petition is that it asks for the “basics” of the investigation to be made public; why not the full truth?

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