Baltimore’s Finest

If anyone ever has any doubt about why so many people have contempt for police officers, read this article about recent victims of Baltimore’s finest. Here’s the meat and potatoes:

Baltimore City police arrested a Virginia couple over the weekend after they asked an officer for directions. [...]

“In jail for eight hours — sleeping on a concrete floor next to a toilet,” Kelly said. [...]

Hopelessly lost, relief melted away concerns after they spotted a police vehicle.

“I said, ‘Thank goodness, could you please get us to 95?” Kelly said. [...]

“What she said was ‘You found your own way in here, you can find your own way out.'” Kelly said.

Collins said the couple spotted another police vehicle and flagged that officer down for directions. But Officer Natalie Preston, a six-year veteran of the force, intervened.

“That really threw us for a loop when she stepped in between our cars,” Kelly said. “(She) said my partner is not going to step in front of me and tell you directions if I’m not.” [...]

Kelly said. “I obeyed everything — stepped out of the car, put my hands behind my back, and the next thing I know, I was getting arrested for trespassing.”

“By this time, I was completely in tears,” Brook said. “I said, ‘Ma’am, you know, we just need your help. We are not trying to cause you any trouble. I’m not leaving him here.’ What she did was walk over to my side of the car and said, ‘Ok, we are taking you downtown, too.'”

Collins said the couple was released from jail without being charged with anything. Brook is now concerned the arrest may complicate a criminal background check she’s going through in her job as a child care worker.

Collins said police left Kelly’s car unlocked and the windows down at the impound lot. He reported a cell phone charger, pair of sunglasses and 20 CDs were stolen.

The role of the police used to be to protect and to serve. Now it’s more like intimidate, assault, torture, kidnap and murder.

posted by Stephen Gordon
  • undercover_anarchist

    F the police coming straight from the underground

  • Torfinn “the mighty”

    Word.

  • Stuart Richards

    Sue their asses. Seriously.

    My mom has a warrant out for her arrest in that piece of shit state simply because she didn’t buy Maryland plates. SHE’S MILITARY, SHE DOESN’T HAVE TO PAY ANY TAXES TO THAT CUMGUZZLING LOCALITY THEY CALL A GOVERNMENT.

  • http://theserrach.typepad.com/mirada/ the serrach

    he said/she said.

    the (cumguzzling) cops will lie. end of story. i don’t condone the killing of anyone but (here it comes) i’m often reminded of a scene from reservoir dogs. it went something like this –

    you kill anyone?
    couple cops.
    any real people?

  • Ian C

    Well, let’s see here:

    Civil lawsuit based on:
    The couple were held without charges or suspicion of crime. If this gets reported, that’s potential loss of income/impacting capacity for self-sufficiency. Loss of income is a viable source of a civil lawsuit.

    Loss of materials and emotional value (say, the 20 CD’s.) That vehicle should never have been left open to the public.

    Then there’s always your favorite, “emotional trauma.” *THAT* one could go to the department.

    The only problems I have with this list is: The money would come from taxpayer’s pockets and the cops in question would keep their jobs.

  • http://www.fuckinretard.com Misfit

    There are good cops out there. I know one (only one). But the abuse of power is frightening. This is what we get for allowing each little freedom to slip away however. Keep voting Republicrat and it’ll get much fukin worse!

  • Death From Above

    Time for the killing to begin.

  • Scott Dance

    White couple. Black officer. Enough said…

  • Julian (a Vietnam Vet)

    It is not fair to generalize to all cops everywhere. It seems that is what is happening here.

    If this pans out to be true, then the least that should happen is the cop should be fired and the citizens compensated for their unlawful detention.

    I believe the cop should be prosecuted for false arrest and false imprisonment and if convicted, serve time if she is really guilty of what is alleged.

  • Stephen VanDyke

    1) It’s unfair to generalize based on lone instances like this.

    except…

    2) These abuses of power are becoming all too common, leaving many people wary of the police.

  • http://www.boortz.com Quisling

    Julian is right, although I’m not sure what him being a Vietnam veteran has to do with this. We must remember that our rulers love us and everything they do is for our own good, even their tough love. It’s true our government masters take half our incomes, run up huge debt, invade foreign lands and station troops all over the world, but come on guys, all this is for our own good! What’s a little tough love from the cops?

  • undercover_anarchist

    Hold on, guys. I just got the memo: Cops and firefighters are heroes. Don’t talk down on them. It’s unpatriotic.

  • Devious David

    Think of how often things like this happen and we never hear about it.

    One of their favorite things to do when they fucked up and know it is come to you a week later with false charges of disorderly conduct. Then they will let you off the hook if you don’t do anything to them. Otherwise, they will prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law. This really happened to a family member, except she got the extra bonus of being assaulted!

    It’s just another isolated incident here, though…

    Nothing is going to happen. That’s one reason why things like this are happening more and more. They know they can do it with impugnity and they are hiring more and more to enforce all these great laws.

  • Dave C.

    I hate when I witness the arrogant abuse of power, and I’ve had my run-ins with cops — however, something smells fishy about this story:

    1. Why did the second cop so easily allow the first one to interfere with aid?
    2. Why did the second cop allow the arrest if so unwarranted?
    3. After being told twice to move on, the couple drives 40 feet and … stops. When I get lost with a cellphone, I keep driving and call. They call their parents in another town to ask for directions? Why stop?
    4. They found a cop and asked for directions, after which the cop tells them to pull over? How were they talking to the cop if they were not already pulled over?
    5. Of the ticket, they said “It was no big deal.” Yet he admits to grabbing at the ticket and having the cop reach across his body, consistent with the police report. No big deal?
    6. Me thinks all this grabbing, flagging, stopping, flashing, calling, and contradiction is way more drama than being lost would warrant.

  • Dave C.

    If it’s too bad to be true, it may not be.

    The normally unreliable media has totally accepted the couple’s unbelievable story, & we haven’t even heard the other side.

    To me, a more plausible explanation:

    1. Couple gets lost & frustrated.
    2. Being in an unfamiliar area, they accidently run a stop sign & get pulled over. More frustration.
    3. Driver gets belligerent with the cop, snatching the ticket book & being argumentative.
    4. Cop gets angry, is unhelpful, tells driver to move on.
    5. Driver refuses to leave, gets out of car, flags second cop to spite first.
    6. First cop now more angry. Second cop figures it out, sides with first. Both tell driver to move on.
    7. Couple now really mad, drama not working. Stops AGAIN, daring cop to arrest.
    8. Cop takes the bait.
    9. Couple spends 8 hours swearing to get even.
    10. Media buys into the whole “We are so innocent” bit.

    I don’t know what happened – I’m waiting for more information before I judge.

  • blowmedown

    Dave C., you’re a moron. If the couple did anything like what you suggest, they would have been charged. This is typical of the behavior of cops today, and it is exactly what you get when the rule of men supercedes the rule of law: cops acting as the ultimate source of power and authority, and getting away with it. The couple actually is lucky. Given an isolated confrontation with the gang with the badges, they could have been shot to death with impunity. I guess they didn’t give the cops any *real* sass…

  • Acutely Aware

    Their motto is to Protect and serve, Protect themselves and serve citations!

    Acutely Aware

  • Daniel

    At last! A city which is worse than Detroit!

    In other words, guys are right not to ask for directions. Just get yourself one of them GPS gizmos.

  • Todd Nazz

    I read these stories way too often..Pay 10 bucks an hour, shoot at paper targets, slap on a gun and badge and protect the public. It once again reflects the attitude that “There goes another bad cop” Underpaid, undertrained and unprepared…If there’s a fox in the henhouse, killing the chickens wont solve the problem.

  • John Galt

    I suspect:

    – Couple gets lost in a “rough area”
    – Ran stop sign since they are scared and lost. Want out!
    – See the cop, relief.
    – Cop is black, couple white. Cop gets a hair across her butt because the “white couple” assume the black ‘hood is high crime
    – Cop is an affirmitive action hire (two-fer) and protected by her minority status and union. So she has no feedback loop to “serve” the citizens
    – … that pretty much sums it up.

  • Mike

    I propose anyone upset by the actions of the police here to spam questions@baltimorepolice.org with links to this story.

  • Crash

    A different version:
    http://www.nbc4.com/news/9240854/detail.html

    It states both of Brooks parents are officers in the Pittsburg area. Doesn’t sound like the type of kid who mouths off to police for no reason. She’s obviously close enough to her dad to call when she’s lost, so I think the argument that she lacks respect for police is questionable. Sound more to me like Officer Natalie was having a bad day and decided to vent on two lost suburban kids.

  • Crash

    To answer Dave’s questions:
    1 & 2. Police officers rarely side against fellow officers. It’s extremely dangerous to do so when walking into a situation and not knowing what has already occurred.

    3. Just because you’re told to move along does not mean you can’t legally park on a city street further down the block, especially if it’s to call for direction. Why call out of state? Well, who did they know locally? Their parents probably have this thing I like to call Google maps, which is why the called them.

    4. They might have pulled along side the cop, who then instructed them to pull over instead of the middle of the road.

    5. Where does it say they grabbed the ticket?

    Seems there’s at least possible answers for your questions.

  • Terry

    Nice discussion but the first comment really summed it up.
    Those who at first tolerated injustice will now be sorry that they have been complicit in breeding this monster that now has teeth strong enough to bite through the doors of their SUV’s.

  • Haxnbauer

    Come on, lets skip all the heavy nonsense about “those who at first tolerated injustice…bla bla bla.” This is a simple case of a miserable cop who wasn’t in the mood to make nice to two white outsiders who got lost after a baseball game. She just wanted to share the misery.
    Btw, you just gotta giggle over the rage of these self proclaimed anarchists. 99% of them are spoiled upper-middle class babies who have never had to work a day in their life to earn thier keep. Mommy and daddy were never fair, and now big brother is not fair. Let have a tantrum.

  • Dave C.

    I may be a moron, but I’m not stupid enough to accept a story in the media until I’ve heard both sides, especially when the only side I hear is internally inconsistent.

    I’m skeptical of cops, but more skeptical of the media.

    To Crash, I think your answers are reasonable, but it’s a stretch to accept them all.

    The ticket grabbing and physical struggle is reported in other articles I found by searching Google News.

    Other aspects are starting to come out:
    – The girl refused to identify herself and was booked as a Jane Doe – why would the daughter of a cop to this?
    – Driver has a recent embezzling conviction – indicates a proven ability to criminally deceive
    – Cherry Hills is the place to cruise for drugs – I’m curious how often cops hear “I’m lost” when stopping buyers.

    Finally, Mapquest driving instructions from Camden Field to 800 Bridgeview. Driver had the right to drive anywhere he wanted, but I’m having a hard time believing he ended up there by accident.

  • Nunya

    More like the cop, who the media won’t show you because she’s Black, was up to no good when two suburban honkies accidentally cruised up on her in her own hood.

    Funk dat, nukka. Ya’ll honkies found yo way in, ya’ll honkies find you OWN way out.

    Werd.

  • blowmedown

    It became more than just a surly copy taking a bad day out on a slave, er citizen, when she actively interfered to stop the *second* cop from helping with directions. At that point she became an *asshole* with a badge, intent on doing *evil* just because she *can*. How does this distinguish the cops from Crips, Bloods, Pagans, or any other armed gang with a might-make-right ‘tude?

  • JRL

    Think cops can’t and don’t abuse power

    http://www.theagitator.com/archives/026505.php

    Listen to the tape – it should scare the sheit out of anyone.

  • Graham

    I am from MD but never spent much time in Baltimore. The sho’ I am from is basically a separate state.

  • Svigor

    “1. Why did the second cop so easily allow the first one to interfere with aid?”

    Because he’s a racist black cop too.

    “2. Why did the second cop allow the arrest if so unwarranted?”

    See #1.

    “3. After being told twice to move on, the couple drives 40 feet and ”¦ stops. When I get lost with a cellphone, I keep driving and call. They call their parents in another town to ask for directions? Why stop?”

    Because they felt like it (in other words, none of your (or the cops’) goddamned business).

    “4. They found a cop and asked for directions, after which the cop tells them to pull over? How were they talking to the cop if they were not already pulled over?”

    Pulled alongside? Who cares?

    “5. Of the ticket, they said “It was no big deal.” Yet he admits to grabbing at the ticket and having the cop reach across his body, consistent with the police report. No big deal?”

    Source? Of course, you’re right that we have two uppity honkeys here.

    “6. Me thinks all this grabbing, flagging, stopping, flashing, calling, and contradiction is way more drama than being lost would warrant.”

    Lol, I’m sure your narrow ass is 100% at home in Baltimore slums.

  • Svigor

    John Galt, you have it almost right. I corrected it for you:

    – Couple gets lost in a “rough area”
    – Ran stop sign since they are scared and lost. Want out!
    – See the cop, relief.
    – Cop is black, couple white. Cop gets a hair across her butt because black cops assume white motorists in black slums are always looking for drugs (driving while white).
    – Cop is an affirmitive action hire (two-fer) and protected by her minority status and union. So she has no feedback loop to “serve” the citizens
    – ”¦ that pretty much sums it up.

  • Svigor

    “The ticket grabbing and physical struggle is reported in other articles I found by searching Google News.”

    No, you said the man admitted to doing so. Links please.

  • John Galt

    Regards to correction. I do understand that there are two sides, and each side has their own form of “racial profiling”.

    – I agree that a lot of “lost” white people are looking for drugs, and the cops know this. Maybe this is, or is not true in this case, but the bias is there, similar to the bias about a black area being “high crime”.

    I have gotten lost in such area’s in the past due to wrong turns, one way streets, getting off the highway when there is an accident backup, etc. Normally happens in area’s I am new to traveling in, and yes I do get “scared” and try not to stop.

    – It is likely that she/he called the cop Dad in Philadelphia not for “directions” but “advice”. I grew up with a couple of kids whose dad was a police sergeant in town and always got off of their infractions, even drunk driving. Then one of them killed three people drunk driving in the middle of town on a Saturday night…

    So I can imagine her asking dad “know anyone in Baltimore?”, or what would you do? I don’t think she has a case, etc.

    Just keeping open possibilities on both sides, since these things are always more complex than they look.

    But I am sure bias on *both* sides helped escalate things.

  • Svigor

    Want to know what I find odd?

    How it is that I knew instantly that the couple was white, the cops were black, and they had assumed the whites were cruising for dope, from hearing only the scantest facts on the radio:

    1 A tourist couple got lost and was arrested for “trespassing”.
    2 It occurred in downtown Baltimore.

    I’m a race-realist (commonly known as a “racist,” at least the white ones); aren’t we supposed to be ignorant, stupid rednecks? Isn’t it odd how being a race-realist gives me an advantage? For example, I knew the Duke lacrosse flap was a hoax the moment I read about it, the week the case broke. How? Because I follow the racial aspects of crime and know that whites gang-raping blacks basically never happens. (between 2001 and 2003 there were 0 cases – there were 10,000 black-on-white gang-rapes in the same period). HOAXES of white-on-black gang-rapes occur more often than the real thing (Tawana Brawley, Duke lacrosse; can anyone find a real example? I doubt it).

  • Ryan

    When it comes down it, there are three sides to every story his hers and the truth.
    I will not deny when it comes down to it there is a white person in a black neighborhood there is a good chance they are looking for drugs but that falls under racial profiling, which i thought was something cops wheren’t supposed to do.

    This whole story is a symptom of the war on drugs.
    and once again it is going to cost us the taxpayers more money from the time they spent and jail and the resulting lawsuit which we know is forthcoming.
    If drugs where legal there would be no reason for them to be in the neighborhood except that they truely may have been lost and the cop wouldn’t have assumed and been more willing to serve and protect instead of harrass and jail.

    there are many reasons cops pull people over driving while black driving while white driving white with a black man in the car. Or here in Mississippi just driving period where any given night roadblocks are everywhere

  • Dave C.

    To Svigor — I apologize that I’m a day late and a link short — I failed to bookmark the article — now that I go back to Google News, the story I’m looking for is gone (I know — suuuure.)

    It had an excerpt from the police report that described a physical struggle to recapture the ticket book and pen, and a quote from the driver that he was holding onto the book to wait for instructions back to 95, and that the officer reached in the car across his body to forcibly grab the pen. I think the ticket got torn up in the tug of war.

    Closest thing to it I can find is:

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-md.lost18may18,1,1317637.story

    It describes the police report of the struggle, and summarizes the driver’s response (that the cop misinterpreted his movements), but does not include the quotation from the driver.

    So, to your point, I’m unable to explicitly substantiate my contention that the driver admitted to the struggle.

  • Dave C.

    While I was looking for the article that contains the driver’s admission and description of the physical struggle he had with the cop over the pen and ticket, I did find an article that describes how Baltimore cops are being pressured to make more arrests:

    http://www.examiner.com/a-112709~Sources__Officers_ordered_to_boost_arrest_numbers

    This would tend to bolster the couple’s assertion that the cop was all too quick to make a questionable arrest.

  • JAY

    I am from Baltimore, the only obvious fact being stated is that they were in a public housing zone away from the beltway and being argumentive with the local authority.

  • Nisha

    I want to know where someone can file a complaint about the same type of thing. My mother got locked up 3 or more times for trespassing in her own neighborhood. All she was doing is walking down the street and the police arrested her for trespassing.