52% of America says: Impeach Bush!

According to a new Zogby poll, 52% of America believes that President Bush should be impeached over his use of warrantless wiretaps, while only 43% think that he shouldn’t. Those who identified themselves as libertarians supported impeachment by 71%, with only progressives surpassing them for impeachment support at 90%. Even those identifying themselves as “very conservative” post a 23% support for impeachment.

We may actually be on to something here, something we can not only use to get Bush out of office but to find common ground with a majority of Americans. And it may actually work-the last impeachment proceeding had the support of only 36% of the American public, and only 26% actually wanted Clinton out of office. With borderline libertarians like Bob Barr being at the forefront of the wiretapping indictments and upcoming calls for impeachment, this could be a way to get the libertarian name out there in front of the American people in a good light.

What would a successful impeachment bring? It would put Cheney in power, yes, and he’s widely regarded as the power behind the throne already. But even Captain Halliburton himself would be on edge after seeing the fate of his former boss. Sic semper tyrannis has a way of bringing out the libertarian in just about anyone. And we could go into 2008 with the energy of a successful, popular change in American politics already proving our efficacy to voters.

posted by Stuart Richards
  • Andrew

    I think it would send a nice, clear message to all the others…like putting the proverbial horse’s head in their beds. “This is a message from Don Corleone.”

  • Stephen Gordon

    Stuart,

    Good snag! Let’s hope America gets it’s wish!

  • Artus Register

    I’d be cautious about your excitement. A slim margin of people responding to a question before King George has a chance to explain away his transgressions isn’t exactly the storming of the Bastille. In any case, it is difficult to imagine a Republican controlled Senate taking part in that sort of mutiny.

  • http://google Bill Lawrence

    Once it becomes evident that your president is a liar it is time to impeach. It sounds so simplistic but think about it, now that we know that he will lie to have his way or to cover his derrier can we ever believe him again? And I need to believe the president of my country.

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    I only want impeachment if we get a two-for-one deal.

    I really, really don’t want Cheney as President.

  • http://www.joestump.net Joe Stump

    I concur with Artus. Though there does seem to be a slow turning of the tide within Congress, including Republicans. There will always be diehard apologists, but that’s changing slowly.

    That being said, I’d do naked cartwheels through downtown Seattle if Bush is impeached. As Stuart says and I agree, Cheney’s hands would be tied after watching Bush go down in a ball of flames. He’d essentially be the lamest duck President ever.

  • http://partisanscreammachine.blogspot.com Zach

    Nah, I think “The Cheney Problem” would take care of itself. Think about it, his heart is racing with excitement when they finally hand over the nuclear launch codes, and just like that…

  • http://partisanscreammachine.blogspot.com Zach

    ha, now that I think about it, I guess wishing a heart attack upon the vice president of the United States isn’t the kind of “in touch with the interests of the average American” Libertarian I had been arguing for prior.

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    Well I can’t speak for others but I thought your post about Cheney was pretty damn funny Zach.

  • http://google Bill Lawrence

    Why can’t we simply impeach both of them. It seems to me that the dishonesty runs through the entire Bush cabinet and I don’t think the founding fathers envisioned this. Every time someone mentions impeachment in a crowd the cheering begins. I was around for the Nixon fiasco and of course Clinton but I certainly don’t remember crowds bursting into loud cheering every time impeachment was mentioned.

  • rickrajter

    As much as I despise Bush, using a “52 percent of americans think *blank* is a good idea” argument is weak. Shit, if 52 percent of americans wanted no guns in this country, I would just blog “Ya see! We gotta get rid of them folks!”

    Bush should’ve been impeached many times over by now… yet I haven’t seen a single vote even truly considered. At this rate, the next election will be coming up before the dems find a spine.

  • http://21cr.blogspot.com DaveT

    A character limit? Nice [not sarcasm]. Well, in short then, I asked a trusted conservative, Drumwaster, of his opinion on this and he essentially called that poll a push poll and insisted that so far there is no clear indiciation of wrong doing. He wrote:

    “They have yet to show that there exists any person who was:

    1) an American citizen
    2) making a purely domestic communications (never leaving the United States at any point) that was
    3) actually monitored by the NSA
    4) without a warrant (which can be given up to 72 hours after the fact).

    All they have are hypotheticals and suppositions-without-proof, and there’s not a Grand Jury in the land that would indict on that.”

    Take that how you will.

  • Stephen Gordon

    DT,

    One thing to consider is there is no Grand Jury with the constitutional power of impeachment.

  • http://21cr.blogspot.com DaveT

    I guess that’s why he wrote “indict” rather than “impeach” in the last sentence. If the point is wrong, then it’s wrong, but don’t address only technicalities, that doesn’t really help much.

  • Stuart Richards

    As much as I despise Bush, using a “52 percent of americans think *blank* is a good idea” argument is weak. Shit, if 52 percent of americans wanted no guns in this country, I would just blog “Ya see! We gotta get rid of them folks!”

    Majority doesn’t determine truth… but it sure as hell determines what’s politically feasible. I think it’s safe to say that Libertarians have been itching to impeach this guy for a good long while; only now we have a chance to.

  • Bullet Wound

    DT’s Drumwaster’s argument’s bafflegab. “They” have yet to show any of those things because any evidence – one way or another – is Top-Ultra-Mega-Double-Secret. (Alas, we don’t have John Vernon to deliver that line.)

    Any artists/cartoonists reading? How ’bout: Driver W pulled over by trooper, who’s saying, “Please step out of the car, sir. If you have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide then shouldn’t mind if I search you and your vehicle”

    or: Belligerent-looking law-and-order type (beefy, crew cut, suit, too-tight tie) scowling and saying, “If you object to us looking into what you’ve been up do then you must have something to hide … Mr. President.”

  • Rees

    I believe a FAILED impeachment effort would be best. If Dubya and Dick are thrown out of office, his henchmen will simply replace them with other puppets. But, if the neocons cling to power, the entire nation will wake up and realize their betrayal, and there will be a purge of Congress as well as the White House in 2008.

  • Lenny Zimmermann

    I can’t say that impeachment is necessarily the right course just for lying. However, blatant disregard of the Constitution…. I say we’ve finally got enought meat to start picking that bone clean and get and indictment started. Far less was had on Clinton when indictment proceedings were started on him.

  • rickrajter

    Stuart,

    I think we had a better shot when his approval ratings were ~30% around the Katrina fiasco with brown and chertoff

  • Stuart Richards

    Approval ratings don’t always translate into support for impeachment, though.

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  • Leland Bourdages

    Uh, personally, I think a major elephant in the room, peculiarly not being acknowledged, is the aggregious disregard for international treaties, i.e. the Geneva Convention, in the form of torture and rendition of uncharged persons. This policy has already been shamelessly declared to be official policy by Bush and his dog Satan, and provides, I think, more than enough grounds for impeachment, not even to mention illegal wiretapping or even the outright lies with which the entire war was rationalized.

  • Tom Smith

    Though I would like it to happen, there is little possibility that it ever will. The deciding factor would be the (ultra-conservative) “liberal” media, which has done little to cover the issue. Most people get their news from major media. The very fact that many people swear that Fox is reliable is proof of that. Fact is, most people have never even heard of “Outfoxed” or are even aware that there are documentaries out there about media bias. The media of course prefers it that way. So too, the owners of the media prefer the idea that Bush should be impeached never reach major public attention.

    Who controls the past, controls the future.
    Who controls the present, controls the past.

    —- 1984 by George Orwell

  • http://backup.visuallink.com chris

    This is what gets me the most. Below is a quote from bush back in 2004. And a link to the speech on whitehouse.gov. He told us that the Government still had to get a warrant and it was a lie.

    Bush Quote: “Secondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires — a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we’re talking about chasing down terrorists, we’re talking about getting a court order before we do so. It’s important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution. ”

    Link To story: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040420-2.html

    Chris.
    offsite data backup http://backup.visuallink.com

  • starey

    We need to mobilize and elect as many dems to congress in the upcoming midterm elections – to have any chance at all of kicking the “bums” out on their “bums”!

  • Stephen VanDyke

    starey, how are the dems any better? They helped create this culture of corruption in the 80s and 90s.

    As Jon Stewart said: “I guess it’s hard to give credit to someone just for coming in and going ‘that doesn’t work, let me bring in my own not-working thing'”

  • Rodney Oke

    Some real scary stuff being said here! To bad they are distorted facts! Go back and do your home work and come up with some truths…. As far as wire tapping if you have nothing to hide then who cares and besides it wasn’t here it was trans atlantic! Dig for the truth not what you make your truth out to be….. Keep driving voters like me away the party you guys are doing a great job…..

    Rodney

  • Master Cylinder

    Bush wants to have the ability to see what Americans are Googling, everyone should google “impeach Bush” That way Google can someday annouce that it is the most popular seach. I try to google it several times a day. But then again I really want it to happen.

  • http://none Vincent

    If you want to google then enter “miserable failure” and hit the “I’m feeling lucky” button.

    – Enjoy!

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  • Niall

    Land of the free?????? We have an opportunity to try make things right, and therefore need to continue on with these proceedings to impeach g.w.b. Otherwise, we just might have an armageddon on a world wide scale in our midst. To the rest of the world, the americans are truly asleep at the wheel of a very large automobile. Lets get a new driver! For the safety and security of the world!!!!