War on Christmas Over, Begin War on Blasphemy

South Park - Bloody Mary

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Hot off the heels of the holiday season Christmas, religious groups have set their sights on a new demon to be exorcised from the airwaves: religious satire. Comedy Central recently yanked the season finale episode of South Park — “Bloody Mary” — because it offended some conservative Catholic groups. The plot summary from Boing Boing:

In this season finale episode, which first aired on December 7, a local statue of the Virgin Mary bleeds from its ass. Townsfolk think it’s a miracle. Emperor Palpatine Pope Benedict XVI visits to inspect the statue in person, determines that it is instead bleeding from its vagina, and declares: “A chick bleeding out her vagina is no miracle. Chicks bleed out their vaginas all the time.”

Libertarian WatchBlog writer Rhinehold caught the irony of the reverse persecution and wrote a scathing critique of the hypocrisy now on display by the religious activists:

Here we have a group of people that spent a few weeks being hysterical that someone might not want to say the phrases Happy Christmas or Christmas Tree and instead use the words Happy Holidays and Holiday Tree, who now go out of their way to force a television show that uses over the top satirical portrayals of current culture to make us laugh and possibly shine a light onto some of our societal ills off of the air. Not only do they want the episode to never be shown on television any more, they are calling for the episode to be left off of any future DVD sales.

Should we begin the countdown for Bill O’Reilly to come to the defense of South Park because (pardon the modified quote) “it’s all part of the [conservative] agenda … to get [free speech and dissenting views] out of the public square?” I wouldn’t hold my breath.

If your sensibilities aren’t easily bruised, you can download the South Park episode via bittorent.

Update: Boing2 has another update letting us know the head of the Catholic League is gloating (and Xeni liked the headline so much, she used it herself… thanks!):

The episode in question featured a statue of the Virgin Mary spraying blood from her vagina. It was one of the most vile TV shows ever to appear, and that is why I asked Joseph Califano, a practicing Catholic and member of Viacom’s board of directors (Viacom is the parent company of Comedy Central) to issue a public condemnation of the “Bloody Mary” episode; I also asked that he do whatever he could to pull any scheduled reruns of the episode.

“On December 9, the day Califano received our request, he released a statement condemning the episode. He also said that any further decisions would have to be made by Tom Freston, president and chief executive of the New Viacom. For the past few weeks, we have been in touch with Freston’s office awaiting his decision. Yesterday, we received a phone call from Tony Fox, executive vice president for corporate communications at Comedy Central, informing us that there were no plans to rerun ‘Bloody Mary.'”

“Already, we are being deluged with hate mail that is as obscene as it is viciously anti-Catholic. All because we exercised our First Amendment right to request that Comedy Central not offend Catholics again! But we’re used to such things and will not be deterred.”

I for one am overjoyed all the publicity this censored episode is getting. Start placing your bets now on how soon Matt and Trey start writing a rebuttal episode that will piss off the Catholic League a hundred times worse.

Another Update: Comedy Central does read feedback from viewers, so if you disagree with the show being pulled (or perhaps think this was a good idea and like others to act as a nanny for you) then drop them a line.

Yet Another Update: Here’s the letter I sent to Comedy Central. Be sure to be polite, since name-calling is obviously just stirring the fire for the sake of it:

I would like to register my approval of the content that Trey and Matt produce. While I may not always find their humor to be funny, I do think their message of personal responsibility rings especially true with the regard to the self-censorship displayed by CC thanks to the outrage of the easily offended Catholic League.

Should you decide to pull shows simply because it may offend one group or another who lack the discipline to change the channel when they don’t agree with something being shown, I would gladly change my viewing habits to a more free-speech friendly comedy station or let my disgust be known with your advertisers.

Thank you for your time,
Stephen VanDyke
Publisher, Hammer of Truth

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  • http://inevitableamerica.blogspot.com/ Ben Rumson

    I thought that your post was going somewhere different. I’m glad you chose to edit out the really offensive stuff with lines, thanks!

    Why anyone would CHOOSE to create that episode is beyond reason. Anarchy is not the answer to tyranny, (looked at Africa lately?) rather respect for everyone elses dance space. Dont you want to be able to walk down the street with your children without being subjected to a bleeding statue that offends YOUR every sensibility? Oh it’s okay (for now) because it’s on TV and you can choose to turn it off. I can choose to walk down a different street too, that will be the argument later on wont it.

  • Rebecca Simmons

    I’m a big fan of South Park and always have been. While Ive not seen the episode in question (and Im not Catholic), I too find the contents in more than bad taste. Im glad it was yanked!

  • Stephen VanDyke

    Rebecca: I would really like to know who forced you to keep watching it after you deemed it in bad taste. Just because you don’t find something funny or tasteful doesn’t mean the rest of us should suffer because you think it should be censored.

    It’s a free country, change the channel.

  • BeatTheShitOutOfCensors

    You know what I think is bad taste…people who live life with a puritanical mindset and then seek to impose their bullshit on everyone else when their wittle feelings are hurt. Grow a pair and think outside your little comfy box for once! That is all.

  • Stephen VanDyke

    Actually, ban away… Matt Stone and Trey Parker will make a funny episode making you censor-happy morons look really stupid next year.

    Or they’ll send the gnomes to your house to break your kneecaps.

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    Matt Stone and Trey Parker will make a funny episode making you censor-happy morons look really stupid next year.

    How true.

    I saw the episode it first premiered. I thought it was hilarious.

    I am disappointed that CC pulled it. What a bunch of weak-willed bastards.

    Who cares if religious wackos boycott ya? Like they watch South Park anyways.

  • http://www.foraaugusta.com Stuart Richards

    Yeah, CC should have stood up to them. I’m a Christian and I think South Park is hilarious, and I know plenty of other Christians that agree… so these censor-happy fools can’t even claim to speak for all of us.

    Even if I was offended, I’d have just turned it off. I once walked out of a theatre when an anime movie I was watching became hentai (anime porn)… I willingly chose for my own self, though, and for nobody else.

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  • http://www.bother.com Jason

    How about you change the channel? I don’t watch South Park – but I am shocked that Comedy Central would pull anything based on someone being offended. Change the channel, turn off the TV, lock the cable box from letting kids watch that channel. Limit free speech isn’t an effective way to deal with TV you don’t like. Atleast it wasn’t in the America I remember.

  • Defiant One

    Take your first ammendment and shove it up your rear. This episode was specifically made to be offensive to Catholics (yes, I am one).

    Why don’t they make an episode that’s offensive to say, Blacks, or Gays, or Hispanics? What kind of backlash do you think they would get for that?

    It’s considered en vouge to attack those that can’t fight back — Rednecks, Christians, etc. If these two poor excuses for humanity had a pair of stones among them, let’s see them make an episode that’s patently offensive to Blacks, then walk down Paramount Blvd in Compton. There wouldn’t be enough left of them to put in a shoe box.

  • Stephen VanDyke

    Why don’t they make an episode that’s offensive to say, Blacks, or Gays, or Hispanics? What kind of backlash do you think they would get for that?

    Uhh, they have… doofus, on numerous occasions. South Park is about as equal-opportunity satire as they come.

  • Defiant One

    Uhh — Say doofus, you miss my point. I didn’t say “satire.” I said PATENTLY OFFENSIVE.

    There is a great deal of differnece between satire and offense. If you think this flack is about “satire”, you really miss the boat. Parody and satire are fine, but this is entirely something else — this is HATE.

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    Uhh, they have… doofus, on numerous occasions. South Park is about as equal-opportunity satire as they come.

    Heh, you beat me to it Stephen.

    I’m glad the episode pissed off the religious wackos. They’ve done more than their fair share of pissing me off, so it’s good to see them get what they deserve for once.

  • Stephen VanDyke

    Oh please, it’s a cartoon with a statue spouting blood out of its ass/vagina. It may be tasteless, it may be politically incorrect, and yes, it may be offensive, but it’s not hate.

    Free speech can be offensive, free speech can be tasteless. This in no way shape or form advocates violence against Catholics or Christians, and you are simply sputtering out of your own ass if you think you could prove this is hate speech in court (and I’m damn sure The People vs Larry Flynt is a precedent for this).

  • Defiant One

    Err, I’m still waiting for your witty response to #11 — you don’t seem to have one, so I’m going to go contribute money to the CC. Bye!

  • Michael Hampton

    Clearly I need to start reading Boing Boing.

    I can’t seem to attract the same kind of wackos you have here. :)

  • Stephen VanDyke

    The Catholic League is free to name me in any suit as saying they are blowing bloody chunks out of their own vaginas for being offended at this. Satire and parody are the cornerstones of free speech in this country and I’ll be damned if I’ll back down from defending Matt Stone and Trey Parker in their right to create any cartoon that MIGHT OFFEND SOMEONE.

    Cry me a river out of your blubbering vaginas, Catholic League, et al.

  • Defiant One

    BTW, Is your mom back from the crack house yet? I can really use a BJ. That’s not hate — it’s satire!

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    Actually it was neither. It was, in fact, a pathetic attempt at an insult…

    Nice Try.

  • Stephen VanDyke

    People vs. Larry Flynt:

    The court decided that the emotional distress caused by the admittedly offensive cartoon did not entitle Falwell to reparations because it was not portrayed as the truth and did not constitute “actual malice.” Chief Justice William Rehnquist wrote, “At the heart of the first amendment is the recognition of the fundamental importance of the free flow of ideas and opinions on matters of public interest and concern.” Flynt remarked, “We have to tolerate things that we don’t necessarily like, so we can be free. Free press is not just freedom for the thought you love, but freedom for the thought you hate.” The decision was important, because if Flynt had been found guilty, then any public figure could sue on the grounds of emotional distress.

  • Stephen VanDyke

    Correction: the actual Supreme Court case is Hustler Magazine v. Falwell.

  • Defiant One

    Great — you’re a nerd and lawyer.

    The Flynt case was about “perception”, but you admitted in #13 that this was indeed offensive, not just “possibly perceived” as offensive. So throw People vs Flynt out of the window.

    Now try this — even the perception of hate, slight, or offense is a great motivator. Damn what Rehnquist said. Getting back to my #9, if it is even perceived that you offended Blacks in my neighborhood, you’ld probably wind up in the ICU. You think my friend DeShawn gives a damn about Flynt?

    Now I have to do something really important (I’m a cancer researcher). I leave you to you sad little world.

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    Hopefully you get cancer, Defiant One.

    Take care!

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    *you will

  • Julian

    Stephen

    If you have gone to the gutter to attract readers with this crap, then I say why not equally offend all religions.

    1. Have a cartoon series on the Comedy Channel showing a Muslim fucking a pig in the ass and then eating the pig.

    2. Show a Jew getting a blow job from Abraham and then sacrificing him to God.

    Satisfied? Got the picture? The whole thing is repulsive so I am trying to show how repugnent insults can be to believers. Athiests and agnostists have no right shoving their beliefs on any religious group as religious groups have no right shoving it up your athiest ass.

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    Julian, the only reason Stephen posted this was because of the Catholic League forcing Viacom to pull the show. You seem to be missing that point.

    And your claim that this is an exmaple of atheists forcing beliefs on people is truly ridiculous.

    If you watched South park at all you would know they take on all groups, in fact I specifically remember the KKK episode in which everyone called all black people “richers” and burned lower-case “t’s” on their lawns.

    If you don’t like it, change the fucking channel for christs sake.

  • Julian

    Stephen

    If you believe freedom of speech is absolute as you appear to support, then I dare you to leave my last comment posted. I will be waiting to see if you pull it as being too offensive.

  • Julian

    Disenfranchised voter

    Don’t lecture me or tell me what to do, asshole.

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    Don’t lecture me or tell me what to do, asshole.

    Noone is forcing you to watch the show. Though, you are the ones trying to deny others the right to watch it.

    So, who is really telling who what to do?

  • Stephen VanDyke

    Julian: This is about taking personal responsibility for what you watch… which is funny because nearly every single episode of SP is about personal responsibility.

    The levels of irony that this is dropping into here is just confounding considering how often personal responsibility is a topic on SP. If you are offended by this show, or by me posting it on this website because you don’t think it’s funny, then you need to take responsibility for your own actions and either not watch it (change the channel), or not visit this site.

  • Nicholas Sarwark

    Actually, Stephen’s just a nerd, I’m the law student.

    I’ll agree that the episode is offensive, which is the point. The Catholic League is well within their rights to try to get Comedy Central to pull the episode (which they did), but it’s probably not going to accomplish their goals.

    If they had ignored the episode, it would have dropped into relative obscurity like most South Park episodes. By loudly decrying it, it makes people want to watch it and talk about it and makes them look like censor-happy prigs.

    As a matter of fact, I’m about to hit that BitTorrent link…

    Yours truly,
    Nick

    …huzzah and happy day…

  • Stephen VanDyke

    If you believe freedom of speech is absolute as you appear to support, then I dare you to leave my last comment posted. I will be waiting to see if you pull it as being too offensive.

    Free speech goes as far as the boundaries of public property and any private property where you are given the right to say it. You are commenting on private property, so I have the right to delete your comment for whatever reason I choose, but I will not, because I believe it has merit in this debate.

  • Stephen VanDyke

    Ditto on what Nick said. I actually need to update this post and give the email address so that anyone can let them know if they agree or disagree.

    Ultimately, Viacom / Comedy Central owns the property, and it’s up to them who they see as the larger audience they want to cater to.

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    Thanks for the link, Stephen.

  • Alan Walker

    I’m British. Over here we don’t do censorship to please the church. Then again we’re not dominated by a capitalist interpretation of an old middle-eastern susperstition.

  • http://www.xanga.com/logosmonkey Steve Wallace

    While I know a lot of this debate is just flame bate I will say the following.
    South Park has consistently gone to great lengths to show fallacy and blind faith in both religion and society in general. They’ve specifically targeted the commercialism of Christmas specifically highlighting societies turn from the religious roots of said holiday.
    They have specifically targeted Atheists and the constant barrage of random BS that many activist-Atheists spew by directly connecting the image of spewing feces from the mouth and being an activist-atheist (you can’t honestly tell me that is not as offensive as the bloody Mary statue)
    One of the characters directly stated that the closely held Mormon belief of the prophecy of Joseph Smith.
    They have specifically targeted and shown the absurdity of Scientologist beliefs (this season in fact).
    They have specifically targeted evangelical Christians and the hipocrisy in much of that movement.
    They have specifically targeted Extremist Muslim absurdity.

  • http://www.xanga.com/logosmonkey Steve Wallace

    *whoops about the Joseph Smith thing, the character (Stan) stated how stupid and unbelievable it was.

    Post Cont.
    They have from the very beginning taken on hypocrisy and general stupidity in the world.
    Its their right and honestly its my right to watch it or not watch it. I personally enjoy the show, if I was somehow offended by it I would simply change the channel.
    To say that these guys are specifically targeting Catholics with some sort of hate speech is absurd. They’ve targeted everyone and everything. They don’t hate Catholics… they hate hypocrisy and ignorance, frankly so do I.

  • http://www.xanga.com/logosmonkey Steve Wallace

    Oh and to #11, yeah it was satire. It was highlighting the convolution of dogma in the Catholic church as well as the role of women within the Catholic hierarchy.

  • Nicholas Sarwark

    I just watched the episode and I have to say, this is one of the best ones I’ve seen. Making fun of the Catholics is completely tangential to the message of personal responsibility and general challenge to the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous.

    Yours truly,
    Nick

    …it’s a disease…

  • Mary’s anal buddy

    WOW, what a bunch of narrow idiots. I sometimes find S P offensive (even enough to change the channel). I also find Jerry McGuire offensive – although I did suffer through it once.

    For the first, I find the fact that it can so easily be removed TERRIFYING! (for the second I wish it could be wiped from the earth).

    Come on folks – you aren’t seeing this on broadcast tv! Change the channel, delete it from your tv, cancel cable, but don’t tell me I’ve got to learn the “science” of “intellegent design.”

    what a bunch of controlling freaks!

  • mikehorn

    Sheesh, I read more disgusting imagery in the bible than I have seen on South Park… Just turn a few pages in the book of “Judges” the next time you are taking a dump and tell me it isn’t more violent and disgusting than anything South Park has done. Oh, and in case you haven’t realized… South Park is a cartoon.

    Almost as funny as Catholics calling for Dan Brown’s book “The Da Vinci Code” be banned. Guess they didn’t see that it was sold in the Fiction section? Calling for a ban on Brown’s book was the best thing that could have happened for him… I’m guessing the same for South Park.

  • Michele Karr

    I am a conservative christian, and I find South Park is usually offensive to me. THAT WOULD BE WHY I DON’T WATCH IT!!!

    Part of what makes this country what it is is our right to freedom of speech. People have the right to say whatever they want, and I’m glad. As long as no one forces me to listen to it, I don’t really care what they say. The only way to make sure that stuff like that doesn’t appear on TV is to create a society where no one finds it funny. That’ll happen when Christ comes back and probably not before. Until then, stop worrying about what Jesus finds offensive. I promise you, He can take care of himself!

  • http://www.libertyforsale.com Tim West

    Jesus Christ, I’m so glad I’m not a Christian. :D

  • Rob D.

    I second that Tim. That’s why I love Deism, it preaches belief in a Creator without bringing all this back and forth hate into the fold.

  • Stephen Gordon

    Even when I find SP more offensive than my taste dictates (i.e. the Paris Hilton episode), I find it important to watch as the impact of SP on our culture is, IMO, significant.

    I’m not sure if SP merely captures the pulse of our political and social culture or accurately predicts it, but Parker and Stone are dead-on so often I find it more important to watch them than the Sunday morning political pundits to understand the sentiments of the American people.

  • Dr. Douglas W. Kinney

    If it offends you TURN IT OFF. Let me be the judge of whether it is offensive to me or not. Censorship allows someone else to make that decision for me. As soon as I demand particular material not be shown, I am forcing my views on others.

  • Christian Nightmare

    It’s considered en vouge to attack those that can’t fight back — Rednecks, Christians, etc.

    Seen Iraq lately? There is a PRIME example of those rednecks and christians not being able to fight back.

    That statement was just as ignorant as your previous statement. Why don’t you get up off your knees, whipe your chin, exit the church, open your eyes and think for yourself for a few minutes.

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    You know back when I was in high school the geeks were not the ones kicking the shit out of the rednecks…

  • Marcus Sparks

    What I want to know is, why did Viacom back down on this and not the Dennis Leary special. The Leary special directly attacked the concept of the virgin birth. The South Park attacked the concept of idiots worshipping statues. (And, as someone else pointed out, it was really attacking 12 step programs, the statue was tangental.)

    If I was Catholic, I’d be far more offended by the Leary show. Of course, I’m not, and I think they were both fine.

    I can’t wait for the episode that actually exposes the workings of the Catholic Church like the Mormon and Scientology episodes. It’s always more effective to turn someone someone’s own words against them than to do something silly like this episode. (Or the one where the Cardinals & Bishops worshipped a giant Spider.)

    After the O&A incident a few years ago, you gotta wonder what kind of “muscle” the Catholic League has been using on Viacom.

  • http://inevitableamerica.blogspot.com/ Ben Rumson

    I love the America I used to know comment. As if that episode could have aired in 1776, say in a comic strip, without every one of the founding fathers taking out their long rifles and mowing down your deified southpark creators.

    The America you used to know would never have stood for it. Lucky for you, you and others like you have managed to drag the american standard down to your level.

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    I love the America I used to know comment. As if that episode could have aired in 1776, say in a comic strip, without every one of the founding fathers taking out their long rifles and mowing down your deified southpark creators.

    You have no idea what you are talking about. If you knew even half of what you think you know about the founding fathers you’d be a libertarian.

    Next you’ll be telling us how the US was founded on “Judeo-Christian values”.

  • http://inevitableamerica.blogspot.com/ Ben Rumson

    That’s a really bright, fact filled rebuttal! I have no respect for your kind of politics regardless of label.

    Let me ask you where you draw the censorship line? If I purchased the property surrounding yours and posted your old yearbook pictures morphed into some homo pictorial for all of your neighbors to see you wouldn’t be so quickk to support my free speach would you? So where do you draw the line? Oh I get it, when it bothers YOU then it’s wrong.

  • http://n/a Torfinn “the Mighty”

    “As if that episode could have aired in 1776, say in a comic strip, without every one of the founding fathers taking out their long rifles and mowing down your deified southpark creators.”

    So, in 1776 there were no offenses to Catholicism in any format in the country? I’m sorry, the founding fathers weren’t exactly the quickest group to abolish slavery either.

    :|

    As if Libertarianism is just some ideology based upon the ideals of the founding fathers and not upon the ideals set forth in the constitution.

    In 1776 what was our culture like, we didn’t have comedy central to poke wit at our inconsistencies, but I assure you there were political cartoons all over the place that said all kinds of defamation of Catholicism, especially in the times of witchings.

    Regardless of the format that they portrayed their critical thought it’s all the same.

    If you however were to post pictures of ME personally doing things I don’t do that would impede on my persuit of happiness.

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    Let me ask you where you draw the censorship line? If I purchased the property surrounding yours and posted your old yearbook pictures morphed into some homo pictorial for all of your neighbors to see you wouldn’t be so quickk to support my free speach would you? So where do you draw the line? Oh I get it, when it bothers YOU then it’s wrong.

    Actually I’d laugh and make fun of how bat-shit insane you were.

    You can draw your own line in censorship. If you don’t like something, don’t watch it. Period.

  • http://n/a Torfinn

    We don’t have to draw the line Ben, our courts have drawn it for us in several cases. You can’t publicly defame someone’s characters, but you are free to defame someone’s beliefs all you want.

    One is a personal attack, the other regardless of how butt hurt you get about it is an attack on a belief which you choose to hold and be offended when someone attacks it.

    Two very different concepts that you are failing to see because you are personally offended by that which is the subject of our pointless banter.

    Someday perhaps if you devout enough time to praying to Jesus, he will choose to enlighten you a little as to the clarity of reality, instead of allowing your vision to be clouded by the dust of insecurity.

  • http://inevitableamerica.blogspot.com/ Ben Rumson

    “So, in 1776 there were no offenses to Catholicism in any format in the country?”

    I said “that episode” not any offense to Catholicism.

    “If you however were to post pictures of ME personally doing things I don’t do that would impede on my persuit of happiness.”

    So now you think that a private entity should be subject to censorship if your not happy about it?

    “You can draw your own line in censorship.”

    So you do not beleive in any form of decency as applicable to society? Only private property rights until your happiness is at stake, it’s getting better all the time!

    “our courts have drawn it for us in several cases. You can’t publicly defame someone’s character, but you are free to defame someone’s beliefs all you want.One is a personal attack, the other is an attack on a belief which you choose to hold and be offended when someone attacks it.”

    So you agree with everything that the courts say; and thus it is proven? I cannot so easily seperate my belief & character

  • http://disvoter.blogspot.com The Disenfranchised Voter

    So you do not beleive in any form of decency as applicable to society?

    Since “decency” is a subjective term, no I don’t. Slander should be unnacceptable–such someone knowingly lying in order to impune someone’s character. You’d be hard pressed to qualify the SP episode as slander though. But be my guest.

    Only private property rights until your happiness is at stake, it’s getting better all the time!

    Too bad I never said that. I did not make any such claim about happiness.

    Nice try though.

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  • Adam

    I saw the episode, found it extremely disguisting, vile, i wanted to puke. BUT…and i say BUT…comedy central didn’t force me to watch it, I chose to.

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  • http://www.google.com/search?q=define3A+satire&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official Thinking Critically

    go to google, type in “Define: Satire” and it will give you some common definitions of satire.

    Here is the one I want to focus on:
    Satire: 1. the use of ridicule or scorn, often in a humorous or witty way, to expose vices and follies. 2. a literary example of such ridicule or scorn.
    http://www.nde.state.ne.us/READ/FRAMEWORK/glossary/general_p-t.html

    I posit that Matt and Trey are poking fun at all those who think that a Potato Chip in the shape of jeebus’ left butt-cheek is a miracle that should be worshiped. The episode in question falls under satire.

  • Marlboro Class A

    Of course Matt and Trey are going to top this episode
    next year, and I can’t wait to see how they do it.

    Since Jesus is part of the holy trinity and God
    impregnated Mary, that means Jesus fucked his own mother.
    Maybe they could do an episode about that, with Jesus and
    Mary on Jerry Springer with other mother fuckers.

    Or perhaps they could reveal that while Mary was vaginally
    a virgin, she took it in the ass and mouth from every young
    stud she met.

    I’m sure whatever they come up with will be a hundred times
    better than these. Virgin Mary statue bleeding from its
    ass? I laughed until I pissed myself dry.

  • Jake Justus

    “Common sense, shoved …. “, eh?

    Whatever the hell you believe, Catholics hold that the Virgin Mary is THEIR spiritual mother, as much a mother as their natural ones.

    So how is it “common sense” to portray someone’s mother in such a degrading manner? “Bleeding out the ass?” “Periods?”

    Hey, Mr. Van Dyke, and your woefully uncritical supporters, if that’s really such a good idea, why not lobby the SOUTH PARK “brain(less) trust” to shoot an episode about YOUR mothers “bleeding out the ass?”

    What the &%$# has happened to adult, critical reasoning?

  • Michelle Shinghal

    Come on Jake. While I do not watch SP, (primarily because I am not a TV fan) and have not commented until now because of lack of knowledge on the subject, I think I can safely bet that communion has never been so busy for Catholic priests. Let’s see, mix one part “offensive display of virgin” with 6 parts normally lazy catholics and you get exactly this. A bunch of “devout” catholics defending the faith they have been neglecting. Free speech aiding religious fervor. A fine cocktail for all. You should thank the SP writers.

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  • Mark Alessio

    Michelle, you mentioned “a bunch of “devout” catholics defending the faith they have been neglecting.” Isn’t that pure speculation? How can you possibly know the mindset of the people who have complained about that SP episode?

    I happened upon that SP episode while channel surfing. I hail from a different time, I guess. I can’t for the life of me understand this need on the part of otherwise creative and witty people” to revel in the joy of taking something that is so precious to SO many people and treating it like garbage. It just doesn’t “compute” to me.

    The whole thing isn’t only vicious, but infantile. What’s really strange is that the defenders of this stuff — just read some of the comments posted above — are the type of people who are so proud of their intellectual prowess. Yet, they flock to the defense of a prime example of dumbed-down art as though it were the Holy Grail. Go figure. Gimme Bugs and Daffy, any day.

  • Michelle Shinghal

    I clearly noted my lack of knowledge regarding the specified SP episode and you are correct to question the need “to revel in the joy of taking something that is so precious to SO many people and treating it like garbage.” The “b” side of your argument-I revel in teaching my children to question all and come up with their own answers (regarding faith, especially) and organized religion revels in telling them that their mother is a sinner who will burn in hell. It is my understanding that the SP writers pick on all religions. Organized religion also takes something “precious” from SO many people. It takes away the inclination to think outside of fear. It offers differing promises of eternal happiness for good behavior, and equally different punishment for sin. It is only natural to pick on the many different “only ways to salvation.” I think (without watching the show) that pulling the episode is bad. I am pretty convincing in person- what if I boycotted “Passion…?”

  • Mark Alessio

    My arguments are about artistic quality, common sense and a certain adult restraint that more often than not makes for both better art and better satire. Your arguments merely reflect your disdain for Catholicism. We’ re having two separate discussions here.

    Anyway, thanks for commenting. The last word has been yours….

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  • Mike R

    At least the Catholics and the recent Muslim extremists have something in common, censorship of cartoons.

    They only differ in their current method of censorship.

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